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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Mr McLean, I assume from your contribution a moment ago that you take a similar view. Do you want to articulate that?

Either Mr McLean or Mr Fleming can come in.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We can draw that together with the recommendation when we refer the petition. Given that the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee is already exploring the issues, do we agree to refer the petition to that committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. We will next meet on 9 November. That concludes the public part of the meeting.

11:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:17.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. Would Mr McLean and Mr Fleming like to address the question?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee in 2022.

The first agenda item is consideration of continued petitions. The first of those is PE1862, which calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce community representation on the boards of public organisations that deliver lifeline services to island communities, in keeping with the Islands (Scotland) Act 2018. The petition was lodged by Rona MacKay, Angus Campbell and Naomi Bremner on behalf of the Uist economic task force.

We last considered the petition on 4 May, and we thought that it would be useful to invite the Minister for Transport to provide further evidence. I am delighted that we have the minister, Jenny Gilruth MSP, with us today. I think that we are joined remotely—[Interruption.] Oh—she is with us now. Sorry. We also have Fran Pacitti, the director of aviation, maritime, freight and canals at Transport Scotland. I could not see the small type on her nameplate—once her job description is on there, there is little room left for her name. I welcome the minister and Ms Pacitti.

Members have a number of questions that they would like to explore. We are happy to move straight to them, unless there is anything that the minister particularly wants to say before we do.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We have a proposal to hear from the petitioner. It might be useful to seek further information from a variety of other organisations ahead of that. Do members have any suggestions in that respect?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

The petition will stay open, and we will seek to gather evidence for consideration at a later date.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

For information, I advise the minister that the source of Mr Torrance’s quotation is a members’ business debate from September 2021, led by Alasdair Allan, on reserved seats on boards for islanders. The minister was replying to Alasdair Allan in that debate.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I worry a little when you say that it is a horribly old profession at 54 and 59; I am 63, so I do not know what that says about my prospects. You raise three very specific areas. We have some areas of questioning that we want to address, but I hope that, during the course of the evidence session, we do justice to all those issues.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am not sure that all the committee members will have had that experience specifically coming from Ibrox, but I am sure that we have all sat in a cab with the meter running.

Mr Grant, do you want to come in?