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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

How do colleagues feel about that? Obviously, we could explore the matter further with Food Standards Scotland, but the direction in relation to Scotland seems to be pretty clear, so I am not sure that that would lead to a productive route forward.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

For the record, I should say that we are joined by two of our parliamentary colleagues—Foysol Choudhury and Rhoda Grant, who has so missed us that she is joining us in relation to three petitions, two of which we will consider jointly. Foysol Choudhury joins us in relation to the petition that we now move to consider. PE1891, lodged by Lewis Alexander Condy, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to ensure that all children will have had the opportunity to learn to swim by making it a statutory requirement to provide lessons in the primary school curriculum. I will invite Mr Choudhury to comment in a moment.

We last considered the petition a year ago, on 19 January 2022. As a committee, we offer our sincere apologies to the petitioner for not bringing the petition back for further consideration in our schedule before now. However, at our last consideration, we agreed to write to the Scottish Government, and I am pleased to say that we have now received a response from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills. In her response, she restates that

“there is no mandatory curriculum in Scotland therefore local authorities and individual schools have the flexibility to decide upon the content of their own lessons at the local level.”

However, the cabinet secretary goes on to offer information about Scottish Swimming’s national learn to swim framework and the delivery model pilot schemes that are taking place over the course of 2022-23

“to help educate and provide opportunities for children across Scotland to experience the water in a fun, safe and inclusive approach.”

The cabinet secretary has also highlighted the launch of the Water Safety Scotland and Education Scotland educational resource for schools

“to provide a consistent level of learning across Scotland’s educational institutions”.

I welcome Mr Choudhury. As is normal practice when colleagues join our meetings, I am happy to offer him the opportunity to comment on the petition and to speak to the committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I think that we can accommodate all that. Are we content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Clearly, the 1983 ban would have been introduced pre-devolution. The ban in 2006 was post-devolution, so I do not know whether we were following any national advice at the time. The issue is whether, by extending our investigation into all that, we become better informed of the circumstances but no further forward with regard to taking the petition anywhere, because the direction from the Scottish Government and Food Standards Scotland is clear. I just wonder what the mood of colleagues is. Mr Torrance has proposed that we close the petition on that basis, but how are other colleagues minded?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Are we minded to close the petition but nonetheless think that it is worth while to ask the question, so that we have the answer to hand? What do you think, Mr Ewing? I think that Mr Sweeney is erring on the side of exploring things a bit further before we close the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

The petition is important, and we will take forward the issues that it raises.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That makes perfect sense.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Is not it the case that the licence is afforded as a method of pest control and is completely unworkable for large birds such as eagles because of the risk of serious injury to the birds?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Minister—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I did not repeat the question. You indicated that the licence was an adequate method of control, but it clearly is not.

The petitioner made the point that, if everybody with a bird of prey—a falcon—let it loose every day during the open season, and every day it took a hare, it would take 50 years for those birds of prey to take as many hares as are shot in one year. Are birds of prey seriously a threat to conservation of the mountain hare?