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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you all very much. That brings us to the end of this morning’s public session. We will move into private session to consider our public participation inquiry. We will meet again to consider petitions in public session on Wednesday 17 May.

10:16 Meeting continued in private until 11:20.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Are we content to proceed on that basis?

11:15  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I suspend the meeting.

11:00 Meeting suspended.  

11:03 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Fergus Ewing, it was at your instigation that we spoke with the two panels of people with experience of all of this last night.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Did you recognise that sentiment about the overwhelming nature of that situation for the individual—the responsibility that, in the absence of advocacy, people feel falls on them to progress things on their own behalf?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Good morning, and welcome to the sixth meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee of 2023. I begin by offering an apology on behalf of the deputy convener, David Torrance, who is not able to be with us this morning, sadly. That is a shame, because he was with our petitioners last night.

We come to that petition now under agenda item 1, which is consideration of continuing petitions. The first of them is PE1958, on extending aftercare for previously looked-after young people and removing the continuing care age cap. The petition was lodged by Jasmin-Kasaya Pilling on behalf of Who Cares? Scotland, and it calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to extend aftercare provision in Scotland to previously looked-after young people who left care before their 16th birthday on the basis of their individual need, to extend continuing care throughout care-experienced people’s lives on the basis of individual need and to ensure that care-experienced people are able to enjoy lifelong rights and achieve equality with non-care-experienced people. That includes ensuring that the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and the findings of the Promise are fully implemented in Scotland.

I am delighted that we are joined this morning by the petitioner, Jasmin-Kasaya Pilling, and by Laura Pasternak, also from Who Cares? Scotland. Thank you both very much for coming to join us this morning to give evidence.

Before we get started, and for the benefit of anyone following today’s proceedings, I should note that members of the committee—Alexander Stewart and David Torrance, who were in the Parliament yesterday—had an informal discussion with individuals with lived experience of the issues raised by the petition. I understand that that was a forthright and interesting conversation. The discussion was supported by Who Cares? Scotland, the Aberlour Child Care Trust and the Scottish Refugee Council. A note of the discussion will be published on the petition web page in due course.

Getting under way with our evidence session this morning, I understand, Jasmin, that you would like to make a statement to the committee—which the wider world will of course also see and hear—and we will then move to questions.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

We have extended the session quite a bit, such has been the interest in the issue at hand. Before we move to the round-table conversation, would you like to make any final comments about anything that we have not covered this morning?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

And which can be closed in a national pandemic, aside from anything else.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I fully agree with Fergus Ewing. The petition is, at heart, about the introduction of reusable metal bottles through some method. I would have thought that the minister would be keen on that, as it would alleviate the pressures of implementing of her deposit return scheme if young people were not contributing to the situation and were able to adopt reusable facilities as an alternative.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Are members happy to accommodate that proposal, too?

Members indicated agreement.