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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you. David Torrance will lead on the second theme, which is the drivers for designating more national parks and alternative approaches.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Marie McNair will ask questions on our third theme, which is the NatureScot reporter process, including local engagement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
That brings us to agenda item 3, which is consideration of new petitions.
I will start, as I always do before turning to the individual petitions, by saying that the committee invites our independent research body, the Scottish Parliament information centre, to contribute thoughts on the content of each new petition. We also seek a preliminary response from the Scottish Government. We do so because, historically, those were the first two things that we spent a meeting agreeing to do, and this process allows us to expedite our consideration of the petition.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
One theme of the petition is the instruction of an independent review. The Scottish Government was unenthusiastic, but there was a general feeling in the committee that, after 20 years, it would not seem unreasonable to have an independent review. Some of the witnesses from whom we heard last week addressed the issue of a consultation process on two fronts. First, NatureScot has a vested interest in the outcome of the consultation, so it is therefore not truly independent in its analysis of what emerges.
Secondly, regarding the consultation itself, although people will come forward and contribute, it will elicit only the information that comes from those people who choose to participate in it, which is not necessarily always the complete picture. The merits of an independent review would be that somebody would be charged with proactively going out and asking questions, whether or not the issues that they asked about had been volunteered by a body of people, an individual or whoever, as a consequence of a consultation.
I am interested to know your perspective on the petition’s ask that a review be held that would look at aspects such as farming, forestry, crofting and angling, which would give Parliament and the wider public a holistic view of the success of the development of national parks and enable them to see to what extent the existing national parks have evolved from the original conception. What is your view on that aspect of the petition?
10:15Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
In that case, I suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses and others leave.
10:22 Meeting suspended.Reusable Water Bottles (PE1896)
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Mr Lumsden, this is your debut at the committee. We are pleased to have you here and keen to hear any contribution you might wish to put before the committee as we consider the petition.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Is he only nine? He must be older than that.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Is the committee content to proceed on that basis?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
There are two suggestions from Mr Torrance. If there are no other suggestions from the committee, are we content to agree to proceed on that basis?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
We will keep the petition open and make those requests, and further examine the options at a later date.