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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Do you mean that we have had three First Ministers in two years? [Laughter.]
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
That is an interesting thought.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
We thank the petitioner for raising the issue, but we are unable to take the petition further for the reasons that Mr Torrance stated.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
That brings us to the final of the new petitions that we are considering this morning. PE2117, lodged by Bruce Whitehead, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to ban the use of any chemical labelled “Very toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects” or carrying the dead fish pictogram, on coastal jetties or slipways.
The key legal framework in Scotland for protecting the water environment is provided by the Water Environment (Controlled Activities) (Scotland) Regulations 2011, or CAR, regime. The framework covers both direct discharges into the water environment and situations where there is a risk of diffuse pollution from activities on land. Under that regime, the Scottish Environment Protection Agency’s role is to assess the risk of proposed activities before deciding whether to grant an authorisation. The Scottish Government considers this to be a regulatory matter and points to the Great Britain regulatory framework, which is in place to prevent or minimise harm to people and wildlife from the use of biocides used in amenity settings. Its response to the petition states that it does not believe that the Scottish Government has a role or that there is a reason for Scottish ministers to intervene.
The petitioner explains that he is concerned about the use of chemicals at Hawes pier and believes that the conditions of SEPA’s authorisation have been breached. He says that manual application of the authorised chemical has led to spillages over the pier edge into the river and in unpermitted weather conditions.
Are there any suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
I think that we have done that.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
In light of the Government’s commitment to taking forward actions at this stage, that will be the principal way forward.
Are members prepared to support Mr Torrance’s proposal?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
It would also be reasonable to seek an update on discussions with the UK Government on funding for RAAC remediation and management, including whether the Scottish Government has any scope in that. The committee may also wish to ask the minister for further information on its plans to review the Scottish home report.
I feel that the issues that have been raised in the petition merit the committee taking formal evidence, and the information that we are seeking will help to inform the committee. The issue is of significant material concern to the individuals who have been affected by RAAC.
Whether we think that the answers that we receive allow the petition’s aims to be advanced in a meaningful way or whether we think that they will have to be addressed by some other means, we should flag up that this is very much an issue on which we might wish to take evidence from the minister at a future meeting. Are members content with that approach?
Members indicated agreement.
11:00Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
That final point reflects the point in the petitioner’s latest submission, which is that they feel that the deck is still stacked. As Mr Lumsden and Mr Whittle said, the developers have much deeper pockets than the individuals in the community who might want to contribute to the process but who find themselves in what has been described as a David versus Goliath position, which makes it hard to do so. Mr Golden’s suggestion therefore seems to me to be an excellent one. Are there any other thoughts from the committee or are we content to keep the petition open and proceed on that basis?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Yes, we could also do that. We will keep the petition open and seek to find out what progress is being made on the effective community engagement proposals that have been promised.
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Are members content to do that?
Members indicated agreement.