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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Fair enough. Colleagues, do we agree? Do you agree, Fergus?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

We could ask specifically for the views of the chief officer. I know that it is an issue of huge public interest. Since the petition was lodged, there has been a very high-profile major fire in Ayr. As I recall, Ayr’s height appliance was no longer in service, and one had to be provided from Glasgow. Issues were raised about all of that, and that is very much one of the issues that is raised in the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That was just the prologue.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. I also thank Karen McKeown—we send our best wishes to her.

We have been looking at the petition since 2021. Do colleagues have any thoughts or comments?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

With that metaphor ringing in our ears—the postman never knocks twice. Is that the—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

As there are no other suggestions, are we content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

The next petition is PE1968, which was lodged by Angela Evans. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to review existing legislation on family law and seek to stop perpetrators of domestic abuse causing further abuse and distress to partners and children by removing their ability to apply for contact orders under section 11 of the Children (Scotland) Act 2020.

We considered the petition at our meeting on 8 February. At that time, we agreed to write to the Scottish Government, the Law Society of Scotland, Scottish Women’s Aid, Shared Parenting Scotland and the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland. Copies of the responses that we have received are in our meeting papers.

The then Minister for Victims and Community Safety’s response, which was submitted in March, provides details on the work that is under way to commence the various provisions of the Children (Scotland) Act 2020, with measures to regulate the provision of child contact centres expected to be introduced later in 2023. That minister also highlighted budgetary pressures in taking forward that work, noting that establishing a register of child welfare reporters might cost around £5 million a year.

The responses from Shared Parenting Scotland, Scottish Women’s Aid and the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland all noted concern about the slow progress that is being made to implement the 2020 act, with the commissioner calling on the Government to make funding available to progress implementation. Shared Parenting Scotland suggested that more detailed statistical information on child contact cases should be recorded by the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service in order to establish information about what happens in those cases. Scottish Women’s Aid also shared concerns that no routine data is available on courts’ practices and outcomes in disputed child contact cases in Scotland, emphasising that is not possible to monitor the implementation of children’s rights without that data.

The Law Society of Scotland’s submission notes that appropriate and sensitive procedural rules should address concerns that family courts can be a traumatising experience for victims of domestic abuse, with judicial training a vital component in ensuring that practitioners and the court can respond to the particular circumstances of each case. The response also notes the view of the child and family law sub-committee that there is already a solid framework in law that regard must be given in circumstances where there has been domestic abuse, and a full suite of powers is available to judges to deal with these matters.

Colleagues, do you have any thoughts?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

If only Government ministers were like that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Yes. That would make sense, too. Thank you.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Even while we close the petition?