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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Oh, I am sorry, Mr Choudhury—I do apologise.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
That is an option that we could perhaps explore but, as you know, Mr Choudhury, there are fewer weeks left in the parliamentary session than there are items of business to deal with. Therefore, maybe we could write in the first instance and see what the quality of the response is, before we commit to further action.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
PE2041, which was lodged by John Ronald, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to encourage local authorities to exempt staff working at community healthcare facilities who do not have access to free on-site staff parking from on-street parking charges and to allow them to care for vulnerable and sick people in our country without it costing them thousands of pounds per year.
We last considered the petition at our meeting on 9 October 2024, when we agreed to write to NHS regional health boards. We have received responses from 11 boards, and three boards have not responded. As we have learned from the evidence that was received previously, the NHS terms and conditions of service stipulate that parking charges that are incurred as a result of attendance at an employee’s normal place of work will not be reimbursed. Many of the responses that we have received from NHS regional boards have recognised that limitation. However, most board responses highlight that there is already free parking for staff across board premises. In some cases, that extends to patients and visitors. If they are limited, parking spaces are allocated on a first-come, first-served basis.
Respondents reiterate that, as per the NHS terms and conditions of service, where staff travel as part of their duties and have to pay public parking charges, they can reclaim those costs through expense claim processes, with the caveat that no parking offences have been committed.
That seems to address the issue of the petition directly.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you. Mr Ewing, do you want to come in?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
In closing the petition, therefore, would the committee, in the time that is left to us, like to write to the Scottish Government, illustrating the work that we have undertaken and noting that we have identified inconsistencies? We could note that, although the broad statement that charges can be recovered will indeed allow some people to be recompensed, others are escaping through the net. That is unreasonable, and it would perhaps be useful for the Scottish Government to be aware of that. If possible, if nothing further happens, the petition might resurface in the next parliamentary session, which would present the opportunity to do a bit more work on it at that time.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you, Ms White. You referred to the petitioner as Tracey White; I note that the petition has been lodged by Margaret Tracey White, but I take it that Tracey White is the petitioner’s given name, so I am delighted that Tracey White is with us in the gallery today.
Mr Lumsden, would you like to say a few words?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
It is Tracey Smith; you are correcting my correction. That is rarely necessary, Mr Lumsden, but I am very grateful to you for your support and assistance in my senility. Anyhow, please proceed.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
As there are no further thoughts, are we content to agree with Mr Golden?
Members indicated agreement.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
We are, so thank you very much. We will keep the petition open and progress on that basis.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Jackson Carlaw
That brings us to item 3, which is consideration of new petitions. As always, in advance of this item, because people might be joining us to see how their petitions are being considered, I say that we do two things before we bring a petition to the committee for consideration. One is that we seek information from the Scottish Parliament information centre—SPICe—and the other is that we ask the Scottish Government for an initial view. People ask us why we do those two things and we do them because, when the committee considered a petition in the past, they were the first two things that we decided to do and all that it did was delay our consideration of the petition. What we do now allows us to expedite our process.