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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Okay. I am reluctantly coming to the view that, if that is the case, and given the limited time that we have, the route will have to be that we invite the petitioners to bring a fresh petition to the next session of Parliament. I do not say that happily, but that is the conclusion that I am drawn to. I am not sure that exercising the suggestion of writing to the NZET Committee would progress matters. Are colleagues reluctantly content with that position?
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
If I may say so, your specialised knowledge of the contents of bottles on the A1 is impressive, if alarming. I thank you for your contribution.
Do members have any suggestions for action? I note again that Transport Scotland proposes to take forward the aims of the petition.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
That comment is duly on the record, as you hoped.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
PE2127, which was lodged by John Robert Erskine—who was formerly media officer to this committee—calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to develop a new digital connectivity plan for the Highlands and Islands with the aims of addressing digital infrastructure gaps, improving mobile internet coverage, establishing public-private partnerships and supporting economic growth, education and healthcare.
We last considered the petition on 19 February, when we agreed to write to the Scottish Government. The response that we received says that the Government has no plans to develop a distinct digital connectivity plan for the Highlands and Islands. It explains that there is substantial on-going activity to improve connectivity across the region but that it is not apparent that developing a separate approach for the Highlands and Islands in isolation would add any immediate value.
The response points out that the Scottish Government will be publishing a refreshed digital strategy, taking into account connectivity priorities and a new national islands plan, that will integrate digital connectivity with other key priorities, making a separate connectivity plan unnecessary.
Do colleagues have any suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
The first new petition is PE2159, which was lodged by David Mackay on behalf of Innes community council. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to place a moratorium on the production of hydrogen from fresh water until scientific studies are undertaken to understand the impact on the environment, local economies and society.
The SPICe briefing explains that all hydrogen production technologies require water as an input. Green hydrogen production is the process of separating the hydrogen atoms from the oxygen atom in water via electrolysis. Blue hydrogen production involves steam methane reformation and, thus, also includes H2O as a fundamental part of the process. The briefing notes that there are different conclusions about how much water is required for different methods of hydrogen production, meaning that there is no single view on which method has the lower water footprint.
The Scottish Government’s response to the petition states that regulations are already in place for any activity that may affect Scotland’s water environment including the use of water for hydrogen developments, which require authorisation from SEPA. The submission also highlights the mechanisms in the planning process, stating that it will be for the relevant authority to interpret and implement relevant planning legislation and guidance in each case as it deems appropriate.
The petitioner’s written submission notes that SEPA is reporting that there are longer, hotter and drier periods in Scotland. The petitioner believes that it will take longer and more rain will be required for groundwater levels to recover. He states:
“any process that abstracts additional groundwater will exacerbate the situation and will have major impacts on the ecology, the environment and the economy.”
The submission goes on to say that the Scottish Government’s response demonstrates a lack of understanding and knowledge of the production requirements for hydrogen and that neither the Government nor the hydrogen industry has calculated the total volume of water that will be required to produce the hydrogen that will be needed for domestic and export markets, nor how groundwater will be replenished.
Do members have any comments or suggestions for action? Mr Mountain is waving at me. I did not know that he had an interest in the petition, but in for a penny, in for a pound.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
If you can do that adroitly, it would be helpful.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
So, you did not ask 1,000 times.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you, Mr Lumsden. You asked how long the Government needs to reflect on the matter. If you had been with us earlier, during our session with the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care, you would have heard that we have been reflecting on private ambulance regulation since 2012, so two and a half years might not seem so long after all. However, you have raised important issues. Do members have suggestions on how to proceed?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
It is certainly looking a lot busier.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you, Mr Lumsden.