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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

Maggie, do you wish to ask a brief question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

We all know that local authorities are under extreme financial pressure. They do not have a lot of capacity to introduce new funds. The Government has put in, I think, £500 million over 10 years. It is quite a bit. Perhaps local authorities are not the right place to channel it through, if it is for smaller businesses. That money is on the table. It is the only place from which money is coming that is on the table and there to be spent. Do you think that there should be—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

Sorry, Mr Beattie: we are pressed for time. Do you wish to invite other panel members to address those questions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

I bring the session to an end, and I thank the witnesses very much for appearing. I suspend the meeting as we change panels.

11:12 Meeting suspended.  

11:18 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

Jordan Jack, we have talked about the current focus of the just transition fund. Do you think that the fund’s focus is correct?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

This is connected to Brian Whittle’s question. The just transition fund is a 10-year fund, and we are at the end of its second year. You have both—Jordan Jack, in particular—described an inclusive and integrated network transport system that would support modal shift and that would be available to everybody and be accessible. You would think that that would be one of the underpinning reasons for just transition. Do you feel that those conversations are taking place enough in the north-east and Moray? Mike Duncan, you said that it still feels as though it is about Aberdeen and about oil and gas. Do you think that the broader discussion is taking place? Who should lead on that and drive it forward?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

You can ask one more question.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

I welcome our second panel of witnesses. We are joined by Fergus Mutch, policy adviser at the Aberdeen and Grampian Chamber of Commerce, who is attending virtually; Mark Munro, chief investment officer at the Scottish National Investment Bank; and Ronan O’Hara, chief executive of Crown Estate Scotland. Welcome to the meeting. If members and witnesses can keep their questions and answers as concise as possible, that would be helpful.

I will come to Fergus Mutch first. I do not know whether you heard the session with the first panel, but we are interested in a definition of a just transition, whether there is a shared understanding of what it means, whether everybody is working towards the same goal in the north-east and Moray and how we will know whether we have achieved it. What is your perspective and that of your members on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

Ronan O’Hara, I will come to you with the same question. What is your understanding of a just transition? Is it shared, and how will we know whether we have achieved it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you.

Murdo Fraser has an interest to declare in relation to this morning’s meeting.