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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Mr Smith, you let us know in advance that you had to leave. I thank you for attending this morning.

I have a couple of questions for Stacey Dingwall and Joanne Davidson. Maggie Chapman mentioned a gender perspective on business. Do your organisations collect any information on whether procurement is supporting women-owned businesses? Do you see that as part of the procurement process?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

That might be an interesting thing to share with the committee, if the FSB would like to do so.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Okay.

Joanne, as I think you mentioned, there is a sub-group in Edinburgh that is focused on supporting SMEs to access contracts. At the beginning of the session, you talked about pop-up sessions to encourage your members to look at procurement. Is there anything in that work that is focused on women-owned businesses?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2024 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Apologies have been received from Colin Smyth.

Our first item of business is to decide whether to take items 5, 6 and 7 in private. Are members content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Are there any others? I suppose that those are the only organisations that would be in that type of arrangement. If the consumer duty is about strategic direction, how will the regional transport partnerships’ strategic direction be influenced by the duty, given that they are one step removed from local authorities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

A short factual report of the committee’s decision will be prepared and published. I thank the minister and his officials for joining us.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses.

09:46 Meeting suspended.  

09:48 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is the first evidence session in the committee’s post-legislative scrutiny of the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014. I welcome Joanne Davidson, from Scottish Chambers of Commerce;?Stacey Dingwall, who is head of policy and external affairs for Scotland at the Federation of Small Businesses; and Colin Smith, who is the chief executive of the Scottish Wholesale Association.?Lindsey Millen from Close the Gap is unable to attend and has sent apologies.

As always, it would be helpful if members and witnesses could keep questions and answers as concise as possible.

The committee decided to undertake this inquiry because procurement has come up as an issue in a number of our inquiries in this parliamentary session. That started with our inquiry into Scotland’s supply chain, and the matter was also raised in our town centres and retail inquiry and in various other pieces of work that we have done. In particular, we want to look at the 2014 act to see whether it has made progress in the areas in which it was hoped it would make progress, and whether we need improvements in some areas.

I will ask a general opening question then allow other members to come in, so there will be a chance to expand on answers to me. First, I am looking for the key changes that the act has made for the businesses that you represent. What has been positive about the act?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Colin, do you agree that the act should get a C+ or has the experience of your members been more positive?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

Thank you, Stacey.

I will bring in Murdo Fraser, to be followed by Evelyn Tweed.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Claire Baker

The difference in size between Fife and Clackmannanshire is quite interesting. Because Clackmannanshire is a small council, it is often felt that it does not have enough resources. They are one of the smallest and one of the biggest councils in Scotland and, although size and capacity are often an issue, they are obviously not in that case.