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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Sorry, Ms Chapman, I want to make some progress. We are a bit short of time.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Thank you all for giving evidence this morning. The committee will now move into private session.

12:04 Meeting continued in private until 12:30.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Has there been anything recently that has improved the offer that you make? One thing that we are thinking about is whether the Government understands where it needs to do more. Is it introducing the right policy measures in order to address those challenges?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is the first evidence session of the committee’s inquiry into the disability employment gap in Scotland. The committee undertook some initial work in the area last year, as part of which we visited Enable and Dovetail Enterprises in Dundee and the National Autistic Society in Glasgow. This month, the committee welcomed young people and staff from The Usual Place in Dumfries and we visited the Giraffe cafe and Push reuse centre in Perth on Monday to hear directly from disabled people about their experiences of accessing the labour market. I thank all those we have met so far for giving up their time and giving us the benefit of their experience as we begin our inquiry.

This morning we will hear evidence from two witness panels, focusing on employability services for disabled people. I welcome Elizabeth Baird, who is joining us online, representing the Inverclyde local employability partnership; Dave McCallum, head of career information advice and guidance operations with Skills Development Scotland; Philip Ritchie, representing the Edinburgh local employability partnership; and Alasdair Scott, representing the Scottish Borders local employability partnership. Thank you all for attending this morning. If members and witnesses can keep their questions and answers focused, we will make good progress.

I have a broad opening question and I will come to Elizabeth Baird first. What progress has been made to reduce the barriers that disabled people face when accessing and retaining mainstream employment in Scotland? We have a commitment from the Government to close the disability employment gap and part of our inquiry will scrutinise whether we are on track to do that. Could I have your reflections on what progress has been made?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Are there particular groups of people who are not making progress as quickly?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

You described the service as being inclusive and bespoke. When it comes to supporting people with disabilities, how does your organisation make sure that it can provide support for everybody who comes in, regardless of what disability they have? Is that more done through working with partners than just yourself?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

We will hear from employer representatives in the next few weeks.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Yes. That is reflected in the Institute for Public Policy Research report that was recently published. I will come to Oxana MacGregor-Gunn with the same question about how you feel the delivery model with “No one left behind” and the LEPs is working.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Could I come back to why we are undertaking this inquiry? The Government has a commitment to halve the disability employment gap by 2038. We know that some progress is being made. Are you confident that we are on track to meet that target? According to some of the evidence that we were provided with, if we focus just on education and have disabled people reaching the same standard of education as non-disabled people, that will close the gap by 4 percentage points. If we do something significant about structural barriers, that will close the gap by 28 percentage points. Do you think that we have a clear path to 2038 and that the target will be met?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Do you think that the “No one left behind” funding and model of delivery is sufficient or is informed enough on what the structural barriers and the challenges are to help us get there? Do we need to look more closely at how that is being delivered? Do the local authority partnerships recognise where you have the biggest challenges in closing the gap?