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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Claire Baker

Do those young people need additional support? That is a group who were, for those two years, not able even to access what we did offer. Has that been provided to them? Do you think that that situation is recognised?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2024 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is the fourth evidence session in the committee’s inquiry into the disability employment gap in Scotland. This morning we will focus on the support that is available to help young disabled people to transition from the education system into employment in adulthood.

I welcome Tracey Francis, who is the policy and development worker for the Scottish Transitions Forum and the Association of Real Change Scotland; Anne-Marie Sturrock, vice-principal for student experience at Colleges Scotland; and Dr Charlotte Pearson, who is a senior lecturer in social and public policy at the University of Glasgow. Thank you, everybody.

If members and witnesses could keep their answers as concise and precise as possible, that would be helpful. The committee has undertaken this work because the Government has a target to halve the disability employment gap by 2038 and we want to see whether we are on target to achieve that. We are interested in what the key remaining challenges are to closing the disability employment gap in Scotland. You will have a chance to expand on many of the issues that I might ask you to address briefly at the start.

I will come first to Tracey Francis, to talk about some of the remaining challenges in closing the disability employment gap.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Claire Baker

If your question is a brief supplementary, Mr Whittle, I will let you in. The witnesses have been here longer than they anticipated.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Claire Baker

Thank you very much for your evidence this morning. It is much appreciated and will help us with the inquiry.

11:10 Meeting continued in private until 11:45.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

Our next item is the third evidence session of the committee’s inquiry into the disability employment gap in Scotland. This morning, we will focus on the barriers that are faced by people with learning disabilities and neurodivergent people in accessing the labour market.

I welcome Carmel McKeogh, who is the operations director at DFN Project Search; Charlie McMillan, who is the chief executive of the Scottish Commission for People with Learning Disabilities; Joanna Panese, who is practice and community development lead at Scottish Autism; and Alan Thornburrow, who is the chief executive officer at the Salvesen Mindroom Centre. As always, it would be helpful if members and witnesses could keep their questions and answers as concise as possible. Thank you all for attending.

I will start with an opening question, which I will put first to Carmel McKeogh. Will you outline what you see as being the key barriers to employment for people with learning disabilities and neurodivergent people? There will be an opportunity for you to expand on the subject later but, initially, it would be helpful to get the headlines on what the key barriers are.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

Alan, do you share that view?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

I have a final question. When she mentioned adult programmes, Carmel McKeogh opened up a whole other area of discussion that, unfortunately, we do not have time to cover this morning. However, the committee has a scrutiny role, and that scrutiny relates to whether the Government can meet the 2038 target.

Turning first to Charlie McMillan, I just remind him of the question that I asked at the beginning of the evidence session. Will we meet the 2038 target? In that respect, I understand that the disability action plan was published in 2018. Is the plan fit for purpose or do we need to look at it afresh?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

I call Evelyn Tweed, to be followed by Murdo Fraser.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2024 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Claire Baker

Thank you. That is a fair comment on our remit.

Alan, I will ask you a similar question to the one that I posed to Charlie. What are the key barriers? Do you think that the Government’s levers and policy measures are doing enough? The Government has a target of halving the disability employment gap by 2030—sorry: by 2038. Do you think that we are on track to achieve that with the policies that are currently in place?