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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

What about the areas that are not covered by SOSE and HIE? We have heard that—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

Our next item of business is consideration of petition PE1676 on the Land Registration etc (Scotland) Act 2012, which has been referred to the committee under rule 15.6 of standing orders.

The petition is continued from the previous parliamentary session, and was lodged by Tony Rosser in 2017. As is outlined in members’ papers, the petition seeks a review of the Land Registration etc (Scotland) Act 2012. The petition focuses on two issues: the relationship between the statutory cadastral map showing the legal boundaries to registered land and property, which is maintained by Registers of Scotland, and the Ordnance Survey map on which the cadastral map is based; and on what supporting materials should be required when submitting an individual application for registration of land and property.

The petition was previously considered by the session 5 Public Audit and Post-Legislative Scrutiny Committee. In December, this committee sought an update from the Minister for Public Finance, Planning and Community Wealth on the Scottish Government’s position on the issues that are raised in the petition. I refer members to the minister’s response, which is included as an annexe to the paper. The minister confirms that the Scottish Government’s position has not changed since the petition was previously considered.

In advance of today’s meeting, Mr Rosser submitted some additional information in response to the minister’s update; that information has been circulated to members. I thank Mr Rosser for taking the time to make that submission and I appreciate his reasons for lodging the petition.

Do members have any comments on how the committee should approach the petition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the 13th meeting in 2022 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. We have received apologies from Colin Smyth. Fiona Hyslop will join us later, as she has another commitment.

Our first item of business is to continue evidence gathering for our town centres and retail inquiry. The broad theme for today is keeping town centres alive, with a focus on town centre living and property stock. I welcome our panel: Euan Leitch, chief executive of SURF—Scotland’s Regeneration Forum; Stephen Lewis, vice-chair of the Scottish Property Federation; Craig McLaren, director of the Royal Town Planning Institute in Scotland; and Adrian Watson, chair of the Association of Town and City Management. Thank you for joining us.

As always, it will be helpful if members and witnesses can keep their questions and answers concise. Each witness should understand that they will not be invited to answer every question, but they will all have the opportunity to contribute at some point.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

No other members have comments.

Given what has been said, I think that it is the committee’s decision to close the petition. I recognise the very difficult situation that Mr Rosser has experienced, and I know how disappointed and frustrated petitioners can be when a petition is closed without the resolution that they seek. However, I assure Mr Rosser that the committee takes its role in scrutinising the work of the keeper of the registers of Scotland seriously. As others have said, we have given a commitment to receiving regular updates from and holding regular witness sessions with the keeper. When we speak to the keeper in the future, we will keep on our agenda the issues and concerns that Mr Rosser has raised.

We now move into private session.

11:17 Meeting continued in private until 11:44.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

That is quite a big issue to bring up at the end of the session. We will reflect on that.

Earlier, I asked about master plans, which come from the 2019 act. The submissions from Stephen Lewis and Craig McLaren refer to masterplan consent areas. Craig McLaren’s submission says that they have been used for housing developments but could be used for town centres. Will you explain a bit more about that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

I thank all the witnesses for offering their time, which is very much appreciated.

I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave.

11:11 Meeting suspended.  

11:11 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

The committee sees that it is not working. I do not want to comment on Stirling Council’s decision, but approval was given for the out-of-town development near its city centre. You expressed in your submission that there is no enforcement of the principle or clear understanding of what it means.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

Is that what Ireland did?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

Stephen Lewis, do you want to come in and talk about masterplan consent areas? I think that they formed part of the Planning (Scotland) Act 2019, but I do not think that they have been introduced in any areas yet. Is that correct?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 11 May 2022

Claire Baker

I have a couple of closing questions. Economic development has been mentioned. Has Euan Leitch had experience of working with the enterprise agencies to support regeneration? We are due to hear from them soon, as part of our inquiry. What other national agencies support the regeneration that is needed? We had Communities Scotland, but it came to an end in 2008. Do the enterprise agencies play that national role?