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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

I totally agree with that. The problem is that that definition is in the bill. We are having the opposite argument to the argument that we often have in here about stuff being put into guidance. Surely you have to admit that work must be done on the definition.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

That brings me to some of Kate Sanger’s evidence. Suzi Martin already knows about this because I have cried on her shoulder about it with regard to my two autistic grandchildren. You brought up how you deal with it on a one-to-one basis with the teachers. It is about basic humanity. I have seen my daughter in these situations, where the two children are absolutely screaming the place down and she just talks to them quietly and deals with it. Surely, in reality teachers also do that because, as you say, it is the human thing to do.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

Does anyone else have anything to add?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

I know that everybody else wants to say something, but I have an addendum to what I have asked. Let us look at it from the point of view of a lawyer. What if, after the bill becomes law, there is an incident and a parent ends up saying, “That was over the top. I’m going to go to a lawyer”? If the definition is that broad, all kinds of things could happen when the law is tested in court. It is quite concerning. I am sorry; I am just gibbering now. Nicola Killean, did you want to add something?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

It was not in connection with the convener, right enough.

I am at a different stage of the parenthood malarkey from the convener, because I am a grandparent now, but my experience was the same as the convener’s: the kids get a sniffle and the school is on the phone to you. I find it difficult to think that restraint and seclusion are happening and going unnoticed. I am shocked, because my daughter complains about how often the school is on the phone and sending kids home. Suzi, is this connected with the lack of data that you mentioned? You said that it is an invisible problem. How would you get the data that you talked about, to deal with the issue?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

The definition is quite broad, however. Surely it needs to be tightened.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

George Adam

What you have all said makes more sense to me than what the bill says, which is that restriction is

“anything done by a member of the staff of an education provider with the intention of restricting the physical movement of a child or young person”.

That is all it says, but you are saying that restriction is stopping someone from doing something that they want to do. That might be a better explanation.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

George Adam

Okay. You and previous witnesses have all said that cross-portfolio working would be a good idea. I totally buy into that, but the fact is that the Government is data driven. I asked a question about this area last week. If we were to be in a situation in which you believe that your organisations or what you do delivers in those key areas, what would be the quickest and most measurable outcomes that you could deliver—if we said that, from tomorrow, there was a possibility of getting people to work across portfolio?

Does anyone want to answer? Did that make any sense at all?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

George Adam

My next question is on the visitor levy. Everyone has mentioned getting access to it—we have already spent any potential money from that about three times over today. If, hypothetically, a proportion of visitor levy could be used, how would your organisations invest it, what would you do with it, and what outcomes would fit with what the Scottish Government is looking for?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

George Adam

I am 100 per cent behind you on that—the organisations create the footfall, so they should get that funding. However, would that not be skewed in some places? How would you do that in areas such as my own constituency of Paisley, or in other places across Scotland? Funding would almost be guaranteed in Edinburgh—boom; all the festivals would get a whole stack of funding. A positive argument could be made for that, but how would it work nationally?