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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 December 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

I will ask Doreen Grove to answer that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

Doreen Grove and I were talking about that on the way here. As with all things in life, it is probably best that we step back and look at the information, at this stage. Given the public’s expectation, if we get it wrong at this stage we will not recover. The convener alluded to that earlier. We will therefore take our time to make sure that we get the process correct so that we can deliver for the people who will be involved.

It struck me, when I was talking to people who were involved in previous citizens assemblies, how enthusiastic they were about absolutely everything to do with the process and how they felt that it had engaged them politically again. For us, that is obviously important. Politicians can all fall out and discuss the various points of the day, but the public can take a step back from the process, which is one of the advantages of participatory democracy. We will make sure that we get it right and will take time to deal with the issues.

Doreen Grove might have something to add—or she might contradict everything that I said.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

Well, it works for me.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

Best practice in regard to what?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

That shows Mr Byrne’s years of civil service training. [Laughter.]

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

I remind Mr Ewing what I said about the children and young people’s assembly that we plan to do. We will ensure that young people from throughout Scotland will be included regardless of where they come from and live. That is important. The equality and inclusion aspect of the work is extremely important to get a balanced view. It also means that we do not get the usual suspects turning up at various events.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

The perfect example comes from one of the people’s panels that we did on the lived experience of those with Covid, because it was an example of horses for courses. At that stage, we thought a people’s panel would be the best way to get the information that we needed from members of the public who lived with Covid. Politicians get caught in the bubble of Parliament, so the panel gave us an opportunity to look at how the public dealt with Covid. The long and short answer is that participatory democracy is an important part of Covid recovery and we could use it as an option to enable us to deliver the commitments and listen to people.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

I will bring in Doreen Grove.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

If David Torrance is looking for a definition, I like what Doreen said: “Better ways to do stuff.” That sums up everything we have spoken about for the last few minutes.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

George Adam

I could talk on that for five minutes, but I had probably better ask Doreen Grove, who was at the coalface, to answer.