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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 December 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

That goes without saying. As I said earlier, they already have a good working relationship, which we want to ensure continues. That is important for both sides, because the committee has a heavy and detailed workload.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

The bill is going through the Parliament and there may be an SSI in September, but it is about as and when we need legislation—if we need it. At this stage, nothing has been written in tablets of stone.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

The figure would probably be about 15. With some UK Government situations, one of the challenges is how long it takes for information to get to us, which slows up the process. However, on the whole, we are probably looking at 15 SI notifications.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

We are. I have tried to be my usual charming self and to work constructively with the UK Government in order for business to flow, but that can be quite challenging. The UK retained EU law bill will be introduced at some point, but we do not know what it will do. That is quite concerning, because that bill will be a massive piece of work. It might or might not affect the number of SIs that we have to consider, which relates to the question that you asked. That could be quite challenging for us.

Gordon Johnstone will give you more detail, given that this is his area of expertise.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

The Government always tries to use plain English and to produce explanatory notes that are understandable. I used to be a member of this committee, so I get that sometimes when you are looking at an SSI and someone points out what it means, you go, “Oh, right. I have read it twice and I never saw that.” I am aware of the issues. As always, the Government will do what it can to ensure that SSIs are correctly drafted and understandable. Karen Auchincloss might want to add something.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

There are a number of ways that we ensure that we do that. We already give reasons for using the made affirmative process. That was also introduced at stage 2 of the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill that is going through the Parliament, and we will ensure that that consideration is on-going.

It is the usual process, but because of our relationship with the committee we can make it work, which is important. All in all, I think that we are already doing what you mentioned. We just need to ensure that we retain the relationship and keep working in that way.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

In very simplistic terms, the made affirmative procedure should be used when it is needed—when we need to get emergency legislation through. As you have rightly said, at times over the past two years, it has been used more than it had been used previously, because of the situation that we found ourselves in.

On the whole, our approach is pretty flexible. I do not expect that I will be coming to the committee all the time, having used the made affirmative procedure. As I said to Mr Simpson when he asked a similar question last year, it would not be my number 1 choice in progressing legislation. However, sometimes, needs must and we must go down that route if we are to deliver what we want to deliver. Overall, I am happy to work within our normal procedures, but when I have to use the made affirmative procedure I have to do so.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

It is a rare way of bringing in legislation. It would not be my go-to way of doing that.

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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

I know. I am aware of the food commissioner issue that came up in the stage 3 debate, and I am aware of the situation. On the whole, I would have preferred to have more time at that stage, but sometimes things change at stages 2 and 3. On the whole, I try not to truncate the legislative process, although there have been examples of that happening in the past year.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

George Adam

Mr Simpson, with the greatest respect, I can talk only about process in parliamentary business. Policy and other such things are not in my remit.