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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
There is more flexibility for the employers to get what they want—is that what you are saying?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
So the proposal is not the same.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
But that is what we are hearing from you today—a very strong argument for things remaining the same.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
Given the figures brought up by my colleague John Mason—the fact that there could be 800 inspections a year—you run the risk of creating an administrative burden, with schools constantly under inspection and nothing getting done.
The evidence that we received from Professor Ken Muir from UWS—you have mentioned him on numerous occasions—was that the current inspection frameworks already provide sufficient flexibility to target resources where they are most needed while maintaining oversight of the system. He is someone who works in education and did a whole report on this and understands how everything works. Perhaps he would think that 800 inspections a year would be a bit much.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
Will you take an intervention?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
I just had a wee look at what the process is in England. Apparently, the three-year cycle is a policy aspiration. If a school is rated outstanding, it is inspected every four to five years, a good school gets done every four years and there is full reinspection within 30 months if a school requires improvement. That is a good idea.
However, the whole point is that it does not actually happen every three years. It would probably work out similarly to the system that we have, in which we ensure that, when there is an issue, there is a process—we do the inspection and the school gets the support that is needed. That is almost exactly the same, because outstanding schools and good schools will be the ones that are—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
That is where some of the confusion comes in. Joe FitzPatrick and I were talking about this earlier. We come from backgrounds where, if someone has been an apprentice, they have a trade and people say, “Oh, he’s okay—he’s got a trade.” Someone who is a lifelong learner does not have the same kudos among those from our background as someone who has gone through an apprenticeship.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
I think that we will agree to differ.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
Equally, we have heard today about similar connections with the SFC and other organisations, and the Withers report expressed doubt that SDS was engaging to the level that it should be.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
George Adam
I do not doubt the skill of the people who work for SDS for one minute, but most of that talent will be transferred over to individual—