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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

I just have a quick question. The teacher trade unions were at the committee two weeks ago. In effect, they said that they should be running the show—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

I am sorry, but I asked the trade unions about this, as well. Basically, they said that they should be running the show. When I put that to the parents groups, they got quite upset, because they said that they should have an input, too. If you are looking for an opinion from me, cabinet secretary, I will tell you that, in my time as a councillor and as an MSP, I have always found that parents are an important part of the conversation—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

The question is: what do you think of that, then, cabinet secretary?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

That is what I was thinking, based on the evidence. I have come to the conclusion that, if we had not legislated but had simply made changes, we would not have got the belief out there in the real world, among parents and everyone else, that things are going to be different.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

Sorry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

Based on my time as a member of the committee and my time as Minister for Parliamentary Business, I note that people are always saying that we must legislate on this, that we need some legislation to do that, or that they want something to be on the first page of a bill. In this case, unusually, we have heard from a lot of people that some of it could have been done without our having to legislate. Culture change has been one of the issues, for example. What do you say to the arguments that have come up in our evidence sessions that we may have been able to do things slightly differently? That evidence has been highly unusual because, normally, people are always saying that we should legislate.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

We have to ensure that they have that voice. The EIS always made it sound as if—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

George Adam

The evidence that we have taken—you have said this, too, cabinet secretary—is that the national bodies, and the SQA in particular, can seem too distant, and trust in the SQA has been eroded. Some witnesses have told the committee that they feel that this is just a rebranding exercise. It is almost as though this is the new improved SQA—like the Daz super-white challenge. Is there a difference between how it has worked and how it will work? How will it be better than what we currently have?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

George Adam

Good morning, cabinet secretary. Unlike Mr Bibby, when I see challenges, I try to think of ways of solving them. Perhaps that in itself is telling, as we move forward with this. Thank you for explaining to those who are having difficulty with it how the budget process works, cabinet secretary, but I think that there is something else that is telling, and Mr Bibby may well have accidentally stumbled on to a solution to the problem.

There is talk about uncertainty on the budget, and that is because of the way in which the devolution settlement works—that has always been the case. I have been here long enough and have been in enough committees across different portfolios to know that the same argument is made in relation to other portfolios as well. Mr Bibby has stumbled upon the idea that, if we had multiyear budgets from the UK Government, that might be a solution and might help with moving away from the uncertainty, difficulties and challenges in many of the sectors that the Government supports.

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