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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

One of the good things about the relationship between my officials and the committees is that, when your clerks or the committee members point out something, we go out of our way to make sure that we try to fix the problem. We need to continue to do that. Our job—mine, as the Minister for Parliamentary Business and yours as members of the DPLR Committee—is to make this place function, and it is important that we get it right.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

I get that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

I am quite happy to be helpful, Mr Mundell. I will ask Nicola Wisdahl if she wants to give you any detail about that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

I look forward to that, Mr Mundell, and I will keep the note that my policy officials got saying, “Do not pick a fight with Mr Mundell.”

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

Are you asking about how we go about writing explanatory notes? Is that what you mean?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

Rather than having me waffle on for a couple of minutes, I will go straight to Steven MacGregor, who will probably go straight to Rachel Rayner.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

It is becoming increasingly challenging for us to manage the LCM situation in particular. Partly, that is because of the political situation—let us not kid ourselves on—but it is also partly the result of amendments and everything else that we get from the Westminster Government.

Last time, when we went we were going through the process of LCMs, I mentioned the fact that I try to look at it from the UK Government’s perspective, as opposed to ours. When it drafts legislation, it does not go out of its way to take into account how provisions will affect Scotland. The problem for us is that we have to make sure that we take that into account.

I do not know whether this will answer your question, but, recently, we have been working with the Parliament on a way to deal with that issue. For example, there was all kinds of fall-out from the Automated Vehicles Bill in relation to the Road Traffic Act 1988 and legislative consent. To try to balance that out at the time, we came up with an LCM although we did not yet have a Government position—we did it so that we could get it out within our timescales and still have time as a Government to see what the impact was. On the one hand, this committee, rightly, asks me about the quality of the drafting, the answers and everything else that we do; on the other hand, there is a timescale for everything. That was an example of a way in which we have tried to make it easier for us to manage.

I do not know whether that answer is helpful to Mr Choudhury. I bring in Steven MacGregor again, to sum up some other bits and pieces.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

The parliamentary liaison unit that Steven MacGregor runs is party to all the legislation that goes through the Parliament; it has oversight of just about everything. Steven, do you want to add anything to that?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

No, the position can be pretty flexible, as you will be aware. There could be negotiations between officials and between ministers over that period, and the position could change. Although I cannot think of any examples off the top of my head, I think that our position has changed with regard to a couple of LCMs because we have negotiated, the UK Government has accepted our position and we have moved on. There have been other times when the UK Government has not accepted our position and we have had to say that we are not happy with the LCM.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

George Adam

I think that you are being a wee bit unfair. I do not think that that is the case. That might be the political narrative, if we started to go down the route of a political argument but, within the process itself, there have been plenty of times when the Government has made its position clear to say that we are supportive of the LCM and want to make the changes.