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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
That is the bit that I cannot get. Having been involved as a local councillor with council budgets, and in other organisations, I am of the opinion that, when such savings are asked for, we get stuff back. Here, however, there was something that was complete and utter fantasy. You, or the institution, doubled down the year after. I just do not understand how you could get yourself into that position.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
In March 2024, while all that chaos was going on, there was a communication from the principal, bizarrely praising everyone for their financial resilience, but at that stage the university was in free fall. I still have a difficulty with that. Was there a culture to suppress challenge within the university? Did that come from a senior level? If so, who was responsible for that, Mr Fotheringham?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
What are your thoughts on that, Dr McGeorge?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
If you saw those things happening, did you feel that you could approach the principal and say, “Haud the bus, this is not working”?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
You are all looking good considering the bus that Baroness Alexander flung you under when she said that she was totally moved out from her post. We know that the international student numbers were part of the reason for some of the problems and challenges that you all faced. She said that she was “sidelined” and that she never had the opportunity to be able to talk about anything to do with finance. Dr McGeorge, what is your view on that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
Right, but she says that she was “sidelined” and that no one spoke to her about finances.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
Okay. Finally, is it correct that the number of individuals who were employed by the international recruitment team skyrocketed in 2023? Did the team end up with more staff when you were already at the stage at which things were starting to show signs of not working?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
For issues such as the student recruitment position, you do not know where you will finally land in any one year until bums start arriving on seats in September. There is an issue around the predictability of international student numbers. As I have said, we felt that we had made appropriate allowance by looking at 25 per cent with the 35 per cent downturn. Obviously, when the numbers started to come through, it was much more than that.
It appears that, in the sector more generally, some types of institutions ended up suffering more than others in that environment. Often, we are talking about institutions that are not in big metropolitan centres and which are non-Russell group. In that regard, whatever the opposite of a sweet spot is, we were in that place.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
Perhaps this question is for Mr Fotheringham more than anyone else. Part of the unrealistic budgets was the betterment gimmickry. In essence, those were fictitious cost reductions. Surely, when you went through the management accounts, you would notice that those reductions were not happening. In financial year 2024, £8 million of betterment was never realised. In financial year 2025, it was £23.3 million. The average business in the real world would not get away with fakery like that. How did you, as a public organisation, get to that stage?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
George Adam
Where did that come from?