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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Okay. Thank you, cabinet secretary.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, Professor Montgomery. Before I ask Judith Robertson to comment, I will try to draw together what you just said. I do not want to put words in your mouth, but if I were to sum up what you said, it is that in your view the case has not yet been made for the introduction of vaccination certification in Scotland.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I have a question for Catriona McMillan. It is a follow-up to John Mason’s question about ethical objections to vaccination passports.

I have had correspondence from one constituent who has a religious objection to vaccination. Some religious groups are in that position. Do you have any views on the human rights aspects of vaccination passports in that context, given that religious belief is a protected characteristic?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I have been contacted by individuals living in England and Northern Ireland who have season tickets for Scottish clubs and who hope to travel to Scotland in two weeks’ time to attend a football match. However, as things stand, I understand that there is no technology that allows those who have certification from outside Scotland to be permitted to access Scottish events. Do you have any clarity about that issue, or do you have any sense of how that will be resolved?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Act Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

That is very helpful.

I have one more question. It is on the slightly different issue of vaccination certification, and it came from a constituent who emailed me this week. He said that he downloaded his record of vaccination and was able to change every element on the certificate. In fact, he sent me a copy of his download, in which he had changed all the information. He was even able to remove large sections of the QR code. Is that an issue? How robust is the security around this? Although I hope that only a small minority of the population would ever seek to amend their vaccination certificate, how robust are the mechanisms to make sure that it does not become a widespread problem?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Act Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you. It is very helpful to get that on the record.

A short time ago, we heard evidence from Neil Doncaster, who raised a number of practical issues around implementation, one of which was the practicality of stewarding at football grounds. As everybody knows, there are issues in the labour market at the moment. Recruiting the number of stewards that would be required to make the system credible is a real challenge for clubs, notwithstanding the cost implications. Has the Scottish Government reached a view on whether spot checks will be deemed sufficient? What other practical engagement is there, and what guidance is being given to clubs about how the system can be set up within the next two weeks?

10:45  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Act Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I will follow up on the convener’s point. I have been contacted by individuals who have season tickets for football clubs in Scotland but who live in England or Northern Ireland. In just two weeks’ time, they will have to produce vaccination certification. I understand that there is not currently a system that would permit them to access their football clubs. Is that issue being resolved? Will it be resolved in time?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you—that is helpful.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, convener, and good morning, witnesses.

In his opening remarks, Neil Doncaster said that we are looking at a very short timescale for this; indeed, I think that the first weekend that it will apply will be that of Saturday 2 October, which in effect gives us two weeks. How realistic is it for clubs to bring these measures in, given that, at the moment, we seem to have very little clarity as to what exactly will be required of them?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that response. It occurs to me that whatever system is put in place will require significant additional resource from clubs, for example to provide additional stewarding. That in itself will not be easy, and the requirement to recruit additional stewards at short notice at a time of significant labour market issues might well present a significant challenge. Have there been any discussions about how stewards might be found and trained? Are you aware of any assessment that has been done of the additional cost to clubs, should these measures be required?

09:30