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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I have one more question about the draft regulations. There is a provision in new regulation 7E that sets out the list of exempt events. Subparagraph (c) of regulation 7E exempts

“an event designated by the Scottish Ministers as a flagship event according to criteria, and in a list, published by the Scottish Ministers”.

That gives a very wide power to the Scottish ministers. We have no definition of what “a flagship event” is. Will you explain what is envisaged there? What would fall under that list?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you, Professor Montgomery. Before I ask Judith Robertson to comment, I will try to draw together what you just said. I do not want to put words in your mouth, but if I were to sum up what you said, it is that in your view the case has not yet been made for the introduction of vaccination certification in Scotland.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Okay. Thank you, cabinet secretary.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I will follow on from the convener’s questions and her comments about evidence. Perhaps Professor Montgomery could answer first.

To put the debate into context, there are people who are ideologically opposed to vaccination passports in all circumstances. Most people are not in that category. The replies that we have heard today show that there is an issue of balance. There are human rights considerations to the introduction of vaccination certification, but human rights must be balanced against the public health objectives of any such scheme.

You have all talked to a degree about evidence. My question is to Professor Montgomery in the first instance. Is the evidence base solid and has the Scottish Government made a compelling case for the introduction of vaccination passports in the short timescale proposed? Does that evidence outweigh people’s human rights concerns at this point?

09:15  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you. I ask Judith Robertson the same question.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I will ask the same question to Rob Gowans, but I will throw in something else. In the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland’s written submission, you ask for a

“thorough and robust Equality Impact Assessment ... and a Human Rights Impact Assessment ... on the impact of introducing vaccine passports”.

You also ask that any scheme is

“co-produced with disabled people, people living with long term conditions, unpaid carers”.

To your knowledge, have either of those things been done, prior to the introduction of the scheme?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

A few moments ago, we were discussing the situation in other countries. I am aware that in France, for example, people are given the opportunity to provide a negative test result as an alternative to vaccination certification. If the Scottish Government were to go down that route, would that alleviate the concerns that you have about the human rights issues that we have discussed?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

I want to ask about polymerase chain reaction tests for international travellers.

I welcome the regulations that open up private sector test providers for travellers, because a number of constituents have raised complaints with me about the cost of doing the PCR test through the one previously designated provider. However, there is an outstanding issue of which you will be aware. The UK Government has announced its intention to remove the requirement for international travellers who have been double jabbed to have a PCR test when travelling. On Tuesday, the First Minister indicated that the Scottish Government was considering what steps it would take in that respect.

The travel industry has been vocal on that matter, as I am sure you are aware. It is concerned that Scottish residents who are looking to book last-minute travel for the October break will now look to fly from an English airport because they will then avoid the requirement for a PCR test, and that that will be to the detriment of the Scottish travel industry and Scottish airports. Every day that goes by potentially costs the Scottish travel industry because people are making those bookings right now. When will we get a decision from the Scottish Government on that issue?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that response. It occurs to me that whatever system is put in place will require significant additional resource from clubs, for example to provide additional stewarding. That in itself will not be easy, and the requirement to recruit additional stewards at short notice at a time of significant labour market issues might well present a significant challenge. Have there been any discussions about how stewards might be found and trained? Are you aware of any assessment that has been done of the additional cost to clubs, should these measures be required?

09:30  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Act Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that. Let me press you on that point. Individuals have contacted me to say that they have been on the Scottish Government website, where the information says, “Work is being done to resolve this issue,” but they have told me that there is no signposting to the exact steps that they need to take to resolve the issue. Can you provide some clarity?