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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

That was a very diplomatic answer.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

Yes. So, you are saying that it is more about the outside noise that could be generated.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

I will pick up on Ian Rogers’s point about funding. The committee is interested in examining funding for apprenticeships, to see whether the regime in Scotland is different from that elsewhere in the United Kingdom and whether we can learn from one another. Do any of you have experience of dealing with apprenticeships, or skills and training, elsewhere in the UK that would allow you to make comparisons? You might not, in which case we can move on quickly.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

Which institutions have you worked with?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

A lot of people have raised the issue of the apprenticeship levy, which is paid for by employers across the UK. You are all employers in Scotland. What do you think about the levy? Do you see that money coming back into your businesses?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have a slightly different question that goes back to something that Ian Rogers said earlier about the way in which we think of apprentices as opposed to those who have degrees. The committee is interested in hearing about graduate apprenticeships, where people work and study at the same time, coming out with a degree at the end while having worked all the way through. Do any of you have experience of, or views on, the value of graduate apprenticeships?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 1 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

With regard to the outcomes from that whole process, how confident are you that you are seeing meaningful change from your recommendations?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 1 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

I enjoyed your turn of phrase about rampaging across other people’s briefs. Perhaps, for completeness, I should ask either Julie Paterson or John Ireland the same question about overlap with other bodies and collaborative working. Have you got any experience of that? I appreciate that the Scottish Fiscal Commission is in a slightly different space.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 1 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

I have a couple of questions on how you exercise your functions, which I will be specific about.

I will start with Julie Paterson. The Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland has the authority to carry out investigations and make recommendations that it “considers appropriate”. Some SPCB-supported bodies have told us that they lack the powers to undertake investigative work under their own initiative. What is your process for identifying an issue for which you think an investigation is appropriate? What experience have you had, once you have submitted recommendations, of meaningful change resulting from them?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 1 May 2025

Murdo Fraser

As you will be aware, one of the reasons that this committee was established was to look not just at the role of existing supported bodies but at the case for any new ones, because a number of proposals to create new commissioners are in train. We are looking at that whole framework and argument. The Scottish Government’s draft ministerial control framework sets out that the creation of a new public body is a last resort. One of the factors that it considers is whether an existing organisation could cover the functions that are proposed for a new body.

Have any of you ever been asked to provide a view on a proposal to create a new body, perhaps in the same field as your organisation? If so, what was your experience of that and how did you feel about the process? Maybe the answer to that question is no, so it will be a very short answer. Do you have any experience of being asked to comment on a proposal for a new body?