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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

I have Scottish Government figures, but I do not have a breakdown. I am impressed by the latest Scottish Government figures. I think that I am right in saying that, through the Scottish Government’s recruitment and retention action plan for disabled people, which was introduced a few years ago, we have increased the amount of disabled employees in the Scottish Government from 6.4 per cent in 2013 to 13.3 per cent in 2021. Therefore, the figure more than doubled in eight years.

Teams are set up in the Scottish Government to help to adapt workplaces so that they are accessible in order to help in recruitment of disabled people. A lot of good work is happening in the Scottish Government. I hope that that gives members some reassurance that we are trying to set an example.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

I expect that the Scottish Government has such data. I will happily come back to the committee on that. I will find out whether we have that information. I am sure that it must exist at national level.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

I would certainly revert to the public social partnerships, which we fund. They bring together the private sector, the public sector, the Government and disabled people’s organisations. I would revert to them to see whether there is a breakdown of their work and the statistics that you are looking for.

I hope that the public sector is an exemplar, and will be disappointed if there is part of the public sector in Scotland that is not accessible to disabled employees. You have taken evidence and I await your report. If the issue is identified as a problem, we will take that very seriously.

On the wider point that was made earlier about disabled people who have qualifications, we are always open to new ideas about how to address that. It is, of course, symptomatic of the wider disability employment gap and how we need to change the culture in Scotland and in our workplaces.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

The plans and policies that we have in the Government are signed up to by all the relevant policy areas. The transport question is a wider question that affects disabled people and other parts of the population. As I have said, there are specific forums that include people who have mobility issues, and their views are fed into transport policy. There is collective government: all policies are reflected through all areas of the Government.

I gave you the Scottish Government statistics. I do not have a breakdown of the number of disabled people working for individual Government departments—if it exists, I will send it to the committee—but I thought that the question was about the Scottish Government’s track record and, therefore, I gave an answer that I thought was a good and credible one on that issue, so I think that you are being slightly unfair when you ask whether I have brought a breakdown of every policy section in the Scottish Government. However, if that exists, I will—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

If it exists, I will send it to the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Yes—although the Scottish Government civil service has its plan, which I referred to, and I gave you the Scottish Government statistics. I am not the permanent secretary and I am not in the civil service, but I am delighted with the progress that the permanent secretary is making.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Yes. You have highlighted the forthcoming bill; my officials will be engaging on that in relation to the employment sphere. Although it will not be a bill that is just about employment, we will certainly engage on it. Engagement has begun already, but things are at quite an early stage. Susan Ferguson will come in to elaborate on her involvement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Absolutely. I, too, was struck by the comment that that has been identified as an issue. The benefit of having a committee inquiry is that it can take evidence and flag up issues to Parliament and ministers. I will definitely take away that message from today and investigate the matter. I also await the committee’s recommendations.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Like the committee, I have visited fair start Scotland projects and offices around the country. I was at the opening of the new office in Ayr a month or so ago, and I met disabled people whose lives have been turned around by getting work through fair start Scotland. I am sure that you have heard similar stories. It is humbling and heart-warming to hear how people’s lives have been transformed by getting into work. A lot of good stuff is happening but, as I said, if there are gaps, we want to know about them.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Richard Lochhead

Many big employers in Scotland are doing a lot. We work closely with all of the business associations and organisations in Scotland on those agendas.

Small businesses and some medium-sized businesses might face some challenges. Clearly, we have to work with them so that they realise that there is a lot more that they can do. It is obviously easier for big organisations, such as banks or supermarkets, that have various departments and resources to devote to that work, but small and medium-sized businesses could do a lot more, too. We are trying to focus more on that.