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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

There is work under way. It would probably take me a while to dig out the information now, but I am happy to follow up with the committee on the exact timetables. We are reviewing some of our plans—2024 comes to mind as a target date. However, we rely on people self-reporting disabilities—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

In addition, I note that the Scottish Government does not collect all the data; a lot of the labour-market data is collected at United Kingdom level. We have given a commitment to look at what we can do in Scotland to improve the data. I know that Lewis Hedge will want to say something, because he is much closer than I am to that particular aspect.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

We carried out a review of supported employment, which reported last year. We are working through the recommendations. I would want to double-check which recommendations might link to your question, because a lot of issues along those lines, which we have given a commitment to take forward, were identified.

On the “no one left behind” approach, I take your point about needing a single standard across the country and there being a postcode lottery. Obviously, if the committee has more to say about that in its inquiry, I will certainly want to hear it.

The “no one left behind” approach is about person-centred support so that, locally, people can have help that is bespoke for their needs. The case worker who helps them will deal with transport and other issues. We are trying to take a person-centred approach so that, if a person has transport challenges in a rural area or elsewhere, they will get advice and help with that as part of their support package.

We are trying to address the issue through taking a person-centred approach to help people. That could be about help with childcare or transport. The approach has been developed over the past couple of years, and we are hoping to build on it.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Yes. It is fair to say that we agree with the sentiment of what you have said. That issue is getting a lot more recognition in Government and in general debates, particularly on issues that relate to young people and disabilities.

As members may know, the Government is now committed to the first national transitions to adulthood strategy. The strategy will address that very issue. My colleagues across Government are working together on that because, as Graham Simpson has said, it is about education and young people coming through school and into the workplace. Ms Haughey and Ms McKelvie, who are two of the ministers involved, will give evidence on that to the Education, Children and Young People Committee later this month. The Economy and Fair Work Committee might wish to liaise with them, as they will be giving evidence on the Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill. Members will be aware of that member’s bill that is before Parliament.

The issue is on the Government’s agenda. We are happy to work with committees and members who introduce members’ bills, but we are committed to the first strategy.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Yes. I will certainly do that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

I do not have exactly such information. As I have said, we have moved towards the “no one left behind” approach over the past two or three years at a decentralised local level in order to allow local employment partnerships to come up with bespoke solutions for their areas. Many of the projects that are funded locally are for disabled people and other people who are far from the labour market. The approach is very localised.

There is, of course, a platform that brings all the “no one left behind” partnerships together to discuss common issues. I hope that, discrepancies and postcode lotteries are identified at the national level. However, I do not have any direct data that compare different areas that I can give to the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

There is currently just under £70 million for employability support in the draft budget that is before Parliament. The £53.06 million that was initially budgeted for and then removed was not a cut to existing services; the money was to fund additional work that we wanted to undertake. However, that work will not happen now, because the money has been removed due to budget pressures facing the Government and the cost of living crisis.

The budget will go through Parliament, so the funding will be there for the employability schemes. There were plans for additional work on tackling child poverty and on other ways in which we could play a role in employability schemes and so on, but those things will not happen to the same extent due to budget having been removed.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

No—it was solely a budget decision. As I said before, additional money was going to come into the portfolio; it is now not coming, as opposed to existing budgets being cut.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

I have discussions through the employability work. As for Colin Smyth’s examples, I am not aware that I have been directly contacted by any of those organisations. Of course, this is all part of the general concern that has been expressed by many organisations in the third sector in particular, which I referred to before. Of course, we are aware of the issue.

There are financial and budget decisions that I am unable to fix because that is above my pay grade in the Government.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Richard Lochhead

Yes. It is a point that is made regularly—I am not denying that. Ever since I have been an MSP—going back to 1999—the third sector and others have regularly made the point that they would prefer long-term certainty through provision of three-year budgets or whatever. However, because of how the financial settlement is set up for the Scottish Parliament, it is not easy to deliver that.