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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Matheson

Good morning. I would like to follow that line of questioning. The overall pot of money has not decreased; the way in which it is being utilised has changed. So, does the fact that more of the Scottish Government’s bus funding is being used for concessionary travel, which means that there is less money available for the network support grant, mean that the expansion of concessionary travel has resulted in greater transport inequality?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Matheson

Not specifically on hydrogen. Parts of the network will be challenging to electrify, and would not make sense economically in terms of distance. There is also an issue in that it would probably create greater risk in relation to weather resilience on some of those routes. For example, if you electrify the line going up to Inverness, it is likely that adverse weather will impact overhead lines and so on, but I know that part of the plan is to electrify it.

I recognise that hydrogen technology is not there yet. At best, hydrogen might get deployed in a local commuter train capacity, but certainly not in intercity capacity, given the energy demands that there would be. Battery technology, again, will probably be used in the commuter space at best, rather than in the intercity space. I suspect that we will end up falling back on some sort of diesel hybrid. How can we deploy that technology in a way that helps to reduce its carbon output? I am conscious that renewable-type diesels could be deployed that might be a mechanism that would allow you to use diesel while significantly reducing your carbon footprint. Has there been discussion about that in the industry? Could you see that developing in other parts of the industry outwith Scotland?

11:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Matheson

I was struck by the comment that Greig MacKay made about the fact that fare prices do not rank highly when bus users are surveyed about the priorities that should be taken forward to make bus travel more attractive.

There is a limited pot of money, so if you were to prioritise funding to improve bus services and make them more attractive, would you invest in a greater expansion of concessionary travel, introduce a flat rate or capped fare or would you invest in bus prioritisation measures?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Train and Bus Services

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Matheson

If the overall budget has not changed, but the way in which it has been apportioned has, is it fair to say that the introduction of expanding concessionary travel did not sufficiently take into account the consequences in terms of the potential impact that it would have on increasing levels of transport inequality, particularly in rural Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

I am asking about 2024-25.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

I want to ensure that I am understanding you correctly. You mentioned £500 million. Is that over the six-year regulatory period?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

On average, you are £90 million to £100 million a year short of where you think the capital demand is.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

I will not go down that particular rabbit hole just now, convener.

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

So, about 90 per cent of your annual expenditure—revenue and capital—is dependent upon what you raise through charges.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michael Matheson

My question was not about whether or not those incidents are causing pollution. The issue is where CSOs are being discharged during dry periods. Is the reality that when you, as an organisation, disputed those allegations in committee, you in fact did not know the answer?