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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

It is like taking the fifth amendment. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

If the commission does not have a view, the federation must have a view, Donna Smith. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Our third item of business is an evidence session on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. Today, the committee will hear from a panel of crofting representatives. I am pleased to welcome Donna Smith, chief executive, Scottish Crofting Federation; and Andrew Thin, a commissioner, and Gary Campbell, chief executive officer, the Crofting Commission. Thank you for your attendance at committee this morning.

For this item, I am also pleased to welcome Rhoda Grant MSP, who will have an opportunity to pursue some questioning following committee members’ questions.

I will start with a broad question. We are at stage 1—looking at the general principles of the bill. You will be familiar with the policy memorandum associated with the bill and the Government’s objectives for the bill. Do the provisions in the bill, as they stand, go far enough to support what the Government is trying to achieve on greater diversity of land ownership?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

That is a good question, and we will save it for the minister when she appears.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

On that suggestion, do you have any practical examples of times in the past 10 to 20 years when such a provision could have been useful and would have allowed land to be used for crofting? Can you think of any examples off the top of your head? If you cannot, feel free to get back to us later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Is that a concern on the basis of how the crofting land will be used over that 99-year period, if somebody enters into an agreement of that nature?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Andrew Thin, I will briefly take you back to threshold sizes. I assure you that I will not push the commission to say what the threshold should be, given that you have been clear that you do not want to do that—and I understand that. I will try to summarise your position—correct me if I am wrong. I take it that you feel that the threshold should be based in regulations, as opposed to being in the bill, in order to provide flexibility. Should the threshold size then be set at Donna Smith’s preferred position of 500 hectares, for example, and we found unintended consequences as a result, that would allow us to move relatively quickly to address those. It would be more complex to do that if the threshold size was in the bill, as amending that would require primary legislation. Is that a fair summary of your position?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Notwithstanding whether you think that there is a gap in governance, it would be fair to say that the review identified issues with governance in environmental matters and with access to justice in itself. On the basis of what you have said about the changes to access to justice arrangements that are being made, alongside ESS’s powers, are you satisfied that the existing governance arrangements are adequate? The review suggests that there could be further engagement to look at areas in which improvements could be made. If there is a need for further engagement, are there areas that you think should be prioritised?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Good morning, and welcome to the 37th meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The convener has sent his apologies, and I will convene the meeting in his absence.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of the evidence heard on environmental governance, and item 5, which is consideration of the evidence heard on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

I bring in Monica Lennon as she is interested in the issue of scale.