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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Good morning—just—or good evening, in Rachel Killean’s case. I want to pick up on the issue about the experience in France, and potentially in other parts of the EU, where an ecocide law has been introduced. France moved from an administrative liability process for dealing with environmental crime to a criminal liability scheme. That was one of the main changes resulting from the introduction of the ecocide law—is that correct?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Can I pick up on the point about the overlap in law that would exist if the bill was passed? I am interested from a prosecutorial point of view. Obviously, it is not uncommon for there to be areas of criminal law that cross over one another. Does that present any challenges for you as a prosecutor in deciding which route to follow to take forward a prosecution?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Is the bill is clear enough on harm that is caused by a course of conduct that impacts over a period time? The bill also covers one-off incidents, but does it give sufficient clarity on incidents that occur over time that could be considered ecocide? Does the bill give sufficient definition on that or is there need for further clarity in that area? I will give Iain Batho a rest and put that question to Rachael Weir.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Matheson

If the bill was framed in such a way and an act was carried out by a member of staff operating outwith the company’s procedures and where senior management knew nothing about what they were doing, I am struggling to understand how you would then prosecute.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Matheson

It is for Iain Batho. If an employee in a company acted negligently and outwith the company’s procedures and that resulted in an act that caused serious or significant environmental harm, who would be prosecuted in that instance? Would it be the company or the individual who had acted outwith the company’s procedures in a way that resulted in the harm being caused?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Thank you. Campbell Gemmell, did you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Are you concerned that, if the bill were to be introduced as drafted, with this new offence, there is a danger of confusion between the bill and section 40 of the 2014 act?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Mark, do you think that it would be simpler to amend the existing regulatory framework?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Good morning. I will turn to the Scottish Government’s position in the legislative consent memorandums, which is to consent to the bill but to withhold consent on four or five clauses of the bill as it stands. That includes clauses 1 and 3, which relate to the revenue certainty contracts and how they are allocated to SAF producers. For each of the clauses from which you recommend withholding consent, will you explain the particular points that touch on devolution that you feel need to be addressed in order to get agreement with the UK Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Michael Matheson

Looking at the timeframe and the capital investment that is needed for some of those projects, I wish that I could share your optimism on what will come from project willow, to be perfectly frank. I am not aware that Scottish Enterprise has created any new jobs in Grangemouth as yet. Most of the stuff from project willow is five, six or, in some cases, 10 years away, so I do not share your optimism on that.

Is there Government-to-Government engagement on the advanced fuels fund and whether more could be deployed for Scotland-based projects? The evidence that we heard yesterday was very much that power to liquids is where the real growth area will be in the future. The best place to do that is where there is significant access to renewable energy at low cost, and that is Scotland. Are there Government-to-Government discussions about the deployment of that fund?