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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

Douglas, do you have a supplementary on the deposit?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

I invite committee members to make a contribution to the debate.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

That concludes contributions from committee members. I invite the cabinet secretary to sum up and to respond to the issues that have been raised in the debate.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

The committee will report on the outcome of our decision in due course. I expect that committee members will agree that it makes sense to produce one report on both the instruments that we are considering today. Are members content to delegate the authority to approve the draft report’s publication to me, as deputy convener?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

No other members have indicated that they want to contribute, so I invite the cabinet secretary to sum up and respond to the debate.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 0, Abstentions 1.

Motion agreed to,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland (Designation of Scheme Administrator) Order 2025 [draft] be approved.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

The committee will report on the outcome of our decision in due course. I repeat that I propose to wrap consideration of both instruments into one report. Again, do members agree to delegate to me the authority to approve the report’s publication?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

I want to return briefly to the issue of capacity in the Scottish Government’s energy consents unit. Is the Government aware of the concern that exists among some developers, especially those in the pumped hydro storage sector? While the energy consents unit might have additional capacity, they are concerned about whether the Scottish Environment Protection Agency has the capacity to conduct its controlled activities regulations assessments and to report to local authority planning committees when they are considering developments in their area in order to make sure that they can submit those in a timely fashion to the ECU.

The reason why I said that that was a particular issue for the pumped hydro storage sector is that the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets has set a date of 30 September, I think, for the cap and floor and for any developers or projects to have made their bids or applications by then. However, they can do so only if they have a section 36 order in place, and that could be put in jeopardy if SEPA and the local authority do not have the capacity to get their work done to allow that to inform any decision that the ECU may make.

Are you aware of that concern? Are you alive to it, and are you seeking to address it urgently for those developers that might have highlighted that that is an issue of concern for them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

Our eighth item is consideration of an SSI. The instrument was laid under the negative procedure, which means that it will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul it. No such motion has been lodged.

The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has drawn an instrument to the attention of the Parliament on the general reporting ground for a minor drafting error in regulation 7(1)—the reference to “paragraphs (2) to (4)” should be a reference to “paragraphs (2) and (3).” Do members have any comments to make on the instrument?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Matheson

Item 3 is consideration of two draft statutory instruments. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee raised points in relation to both instruments. In relation to the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Amendment Regulations 2025, it has reported a defective drafting issue under reporting ground (i) and seven issues under the general reporting ground.

In relation to the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland (Designation of Scheme Administrator) Order 2025, the DPLR Committee has reported one issue of defective drafting under reporting ground (i), one issue where the meaning should be clearer under reporting ground (h) and two issues under the general reporting ground.

The Scottish Government has committed to corrective action on most of those points. Further detail is set out in the clerk’s note on the instruments and, of course, in the DPLR Committee’s report.

I welcome back to the committee Gillian Martin, Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, and her supporting officials for this item: Giles Hendry, policy officer, deposit return scheme; Ailsa Heine, solicitor; and Haydn Thomas, producer responsibility unit head.

The instruments are laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that they cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves them. Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider two motions recommending that the instruments be approved. I remind everyone that Scottish Government officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows under the next item.

I invite the acting cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.