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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

Another issue that has been raised with us—this time by the Existing Homes Alliance—is the capacity of the Heat Network Support Unit. We have already talked about Government capacity, which has been a theme in our analysis of Government action on climate change. There is a call for that unit to have more resources so that we can start really rolling out heat networks at pace. We are all aware of the potential there, but it clearly needs an agency to make it happen and to build on some of the work that has been done around local authority and local heat and energy efficiency strategies.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

Is there new money there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

My question on the back of that is around transparency. As you say, it is clear that there has been an assessment of whether a particular policy will result in a material change in carbon emissions, but, presumably, that could include absolutely every policy, so I am interested in where you draw the line on that. If there has been an initial assessment of whether policies will result in a material change, can that be made available? Is that publicly available?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

To follow up on that, the focus on the north-east is understandable, given the concentration of oil and gas jobs there, but do you recognise that the footprint of the oil and gas sector goes well beyond the north-east? You will be aware of the conversations that I have been leading with unions, Fife College, Fife Council and others in the local community around a just transition for Mossmorran and the need for early planning around that, and the opportunities that might come for jobs. Where does that sit? With Grangemouth, there are dedicated funds around project willow.

The just transition fund is very much focused on the north-east, but there are other opportunities for workers to diversify into new sectors and for there to be on-going training and other things that, for relatively small amounts of money, would support whatever that transition looks like for the ethylene sector, which is dependent on the North Sea gas sector.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will move quickly on to another area. The Government’s announcement in December of the final circular economy waste route map was welcome. There is lots of action in there for the coming year. For example, there is the product stewardship plan, mandatory reporting of food waste—which we talked about during the passage of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill—and development of regional hubs for the reuse of construction materials. The cabinet secretary will recognise all the issues that came up during the passage of that bill.

There is still a challenge in relation to public sector funding and the capacity of councils to work together and start to push on with some of those urgent areas. Is there adequate funding in the budget to enable each of the 11 priorities to be progressed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

Then you could say that there was an assessment across areas of transport policy, energy policy or whatever, and that certain policies were determined as resulting in a material change, but others were not. Showing those workings is important for the whole process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

It would be useful to have more detail on that.

I skip to another set of questions, which are about the climate change assessment of the budget and the different strands within that. A net zero assessment pilot has taken place in Government and I gather that there is an independent review as well. When will those be available for us to look at?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

That has been a good example of Parliament working constructively with Government over several parliamentary sessions. I go back to my original question. Will the assessment pilot and the independent expert review be published? Will we get transparency about the individual decisions on whether particular policies will result in material change? How much of that will Government publish?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Mark Ruskell

I think that we had those last year, and they added something, but it is still very hard to make an assessment of how climate change has influenced individual policies. That has always been the difficulty of scrutinising budgets. The overall narrative is great, but the taxonomy is still questionable, because although it says that £4.9 billion is being spent, loosely, on climate change, there are some things on the list that do not really add up to climate action. They are climate neutral—perhaps they are creating a supportive environment for climate action, but they are not exactly climate action.

I question whether the two things that have been produced and were produced last year actually help the committee and the Parliament to get a grip on where spending is going.