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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am here to listen to the evidence, so I would like to hear a brief contribution from Kevin Anderson if he wants to make one, and I will move quickly on to a final question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will be reading about that in the Daily Mail.

My final question is on contingency measures, which Mark Winskel mentioned earlier in relation to carbon capture and storage and the Acorn project. Three or four years ago, the UK Climate Change Committee warned that the Scottish Government needed to have a plan B on Acorn. There is very high dependency on negative emissions technologies, particularly in the third carbon budget. How should the plan deal with the question of contingency? Should there be trigger points in there?

It feels as though, between one climate change plan and the next, any decision on reliance on the gas grid—for example, for heating or for carbon capture and storage—has been put off. It feels as though many of those dependencies just sit there. Perhaps a contingency measure needs to be brought in, or a trigger point at which Governments have to either make a decision or say, “You know what? This is not going to happen, therefore we need to go to plan B.”

I will bring in Mark Winskel, but if anybody has something to add on the back of what he says they should indicate that they wish to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thank you, Kevin. I am aware of the time, so I want to ask the panel for some brief comments, please, about particular sectors. Are there any sectors in the plan that you feel could go faster, or will some sectors that have been identified struggle to reduce emissions that quickly? Are there question marks over particular policies or proposals for those sectors, because they are either too ambitious or not ambitious enough?

Can I get some brief comments on that? I will start with Lloyd Austin.

09:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

[Inaudible.]—more ambition if those ideas are brought in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay—thank you. Lloyd Austin, do you have anything to add? If not, I can bring Kevin Anderson back in briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

Kevin, do you have any comments? Please keep them very brief, because we need to move on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am aware of the time. I would like to hear briefly from Mark Winskel, Lloyd Austin and Kevin Anderson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask about consumer incentives to encourage uptake of EVs. Specifically, what evidence is there of incentives that have worked in the UK or further afield? Have you any thoughts about the costings? Would Philip Gomm like to answer first?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

It was about which consumer incentives work and the costs of them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will ask Andy Poole the same question. What excites customers when they come in to look at EV models?