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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I sense that before the review that Colin Church did, there was not much in the way of planning for that capacity. His review mapped out the opportunities as well as some of the concerns. Do you get a sense that there is a plan for the strategic use of incineration in Scotland held by, presumably, the Government or local authorities working together, or anywhere really? Does anybody have a plan for 2028? What happens to redundant or excess incinerator capacity? How will it be managed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Looking across the EU at the even bigger picture, are there particular areas in which we are in complete alignment at the moment? Are there areas in which we are perhaps falling behind a bit? Where are we sitting on alignment? I presume that you have this conversation fairly regularly with Environmental Standards Scotland, which maintains the monitoring of alignment. I am interested to know where you think the dial is on alignment between us and Europe.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are there particular areas in which the work of Zero Waste Scotland is leading in the UK context? Are there any colleagues down south saying that there have been leads on particular issues—the deposit return scheme, say—that they can learn from?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Would you say that a lot of the evidence and prioritisation is the same across the UK? There might be differences in how policies are implemented, but everybody is facing the same issues, such as the big priorities that are in the circular economy plan—how we deal with construction waste, reduce reliance on incineration and so on. Are the problems common everywhere?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I have just a couple of follow-up questions. A lot of retailers invested in reverse vending machine facilities; I go past the Aldi in Crieff every week and see the unit with the RVM in it. How much of that has been mothballed and can be brought back, and how much of it is a sunk cost?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

And it is about the deposit return scheme—a new hope, let us call it.

There is now the potential for an aligned scheme across different parts of the UK. Initially, I am interested in hearing about the role that Zero Waste Scotland has played in this next chapter, the conversations that are being had at a UK-wide level, the development of the scheme, and how the experience in Scotland of coming very close to initiating a scheme has fed into where we are right now. Also, what will be your role in the run-up to 2027—assuming, of course, that the scheme is launched, goes ahead, is not subject to lobbying and being undermined and is eventually successful? I am interested to know how you see your role not just in developing policy, but in providing on-the-ground advice to retailers and the rest of it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Could non-municipal biodegradable waste end up being treated using that capacity, post-2028? Obviously, that depends on whether we get there with Government regulation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Following on from that, I am also interested in what your relationship with Environmental Standards Scotland is like. Take an area where we have a problem, such as battery storage at waste facilities. SEPA will have a view on regulations, but I am interested in where you sit within that conversation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Are you saying that the vision and the objectives are broadly similar but that the regulatory and fiscal tools to drive and meet that vision are perhaps not being replicated at UK state level?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Zero Waste Scotland

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

As for the advice that you can give, you pointed initially to the cost savings that councils could deliver if they were not collecting heavy glass. What are your thoughts about glass now? I am not aware of the options in the UK-aligned scheme for, say, the Welsh to put glass into their DRS, or not. Is glass completely off the table?

I am just interested in your thoughts about the policy on glass. Has it changed? Are the economic and environmental benefits still there? Is including glass at some point within these schemes still a destination for you, or do you think that the world has moved on?