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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

You mentioned that you have a seat on the board of some of the companies that you are investing in. I know that other fund managers do that. For example, Baillie Gifford has a direct relationship with the portfolio companies that it invests in through its positive change programme. Of the seven investments that you have made so far, with which companies do you have board representation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Good morning. I will ask about the UK Government’s engagement in the beyond oil and gas alliance. That initiative is being led by the Danish Government but it seems to be building up a head of steam: Germany, Iceland, Costa Rica, Belize, Portugal, Netherlands, Ireland and New Zealand are all engaging in the work of the alliance. What conversations have there been with the Danish Government about that? How do you intend to engage in the conversation that will be launched at COP26 in Glasgow?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Coming back to the points that have been made about how UK oil and gas policy might be evolving, particularly with regard to alignment with the Paris agreement, I wonder whether the policy of maximum economic recovery actually puts the oil and gas companies in quite a difficult position. If I were on the board of Shell—which I am not, by the way—I would be faced with, on one hand, a Dutch court ruling telling us that the company has to reduce by 45 per cent its emissions not just from production but from the sale of all fossil fuels and, on the other, the legal obligation that we would have under UK law to extract every single drop from the reserves if we had a licence, under maximum economic recovery. Can you see the difficulty in making the transition under the current policy of maximum economic recovery? If so, how do you see that policy changing over time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

United Nations Climate Change Conference of the Parties (COP26)

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

That suggests that there will be some need for oil and gas, going forward. However, do you acknowledge that that is not the same as maximum economic recovery? That is not the same as there being 20 billion barrels of oil and gas in the North Sea; there might be somewhere south of 6 billion barrels.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

At COP, we will have the launch of the beyond oil and gas alliance, which is led by Denmark, Costa Rica, New Zealand, France and other states that are accelerating their just transition for the oil and gas sectors. I think that the Welsh Government has been in discussions on BOGA. Are you aware of it and will you seek to engage with it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environment Bill

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

To be fair, the question was specifically about this policy.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Could that link into the target to decarbonise all public buildings as we move towards the hospitals and major national health service facilities that have huge heat demands?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environment Bill

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

I have questions about the whole thing. Was the Scottish Government developing a set of due diligence measures on forest risk commodities last year, when the bill was being developed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environment Bill

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

You will know that European policy development is taking place and that the European Commission is to propose a directive on sustainable corporate governance this month or next month. Why is co-ordination not happening? Why is there no common framework on this policy and many others? Has a conversation taken place about the issue, given that both Governments know that the European Commission is looking to make progress on it? That is in line with the Scottish Government’s policy and with what the UK Government wants to progress on. Between the two Governments and the European Commission, there is a need for co-ordinated progress. [Interruption.] Why is there a breakdown in communication—is it the microphones?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Committee Priorities

Meeting date: 14 September 2021

Mark Ruskell

Going back to an issue that I have just mentioned, I think it inevitable that a just transition will be needed in some sectors such as inshore fisheries, scallop dredging—potentially—and some of the trawling sectors if those inshore activities are incompatible with biodiversity targets. That will have to result in a conversation about where we go next, how the industry transitions and whether there is a need for financial support packages or whatever.

I realise that that is perhaps more Ms Gougeon’s area, but there are similar issues around how we manage a just transition, whether we are talking about oil and gas or agriculture and fisheries. Where do you see that sitting in Government? Is it your part of Government that leads the thinking around the just transition process and governance, or is Richard Lochhead having those conversations?