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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

It is a full cost recovery model.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Thanks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Do you think that there are isolated examples of bad practice that have tarred the industry with the same brush?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I very much welcome that this SSI has been introduced—it is the final SSI in a suite of regulations that are needed to introduce franchising. However, a number of questions arise from this and previous SSIs that need to be answered.

When the previous SSI came to the committee, the Government committed to getting back to us with more information about the guidance that would be produced. I do not think that we have seen that yet, so it would be useful if we could write to the Government to ask it where the guidance on franchising is.

It would also be useful to ask about the timescale for implementation. I am aware that Strathclyde Partnership for Transport might be making a decision in September about whether to go down the franchising route, so I would be concerned about any delay in the production of guidance delaying that process. We are already quite delayed in Scotland compared with many of the mayoral authorities in England that have already taken advantage of the legal changes there and have gone down a franchising and municipalisation route. More information from the Scottish Government on that would be useful.

I am also aware that SPT has raised a range of concerns about the risks that are associated with the suite of franchising regulations. It would be good to reflect those concerns in a letter to the Government and to get a response from it on those concerns at this point, given that SPT is preparing for a potential decision to go down that route in September.

I feel that there are a couple of loose ends that it would be worth this committee following up on with the Government—its commitment to us on guidance and our raising with it a few of the concerns that have come out of SPT’s considerations.

Beyond that, I am happy for the instrument to come into effect and that we have the legal basis to allow bids for franchising to be developed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am interested in how the exclusion of glass affects the overall economics of the deposit and return scheme and in the impact on local authorities. Can we start with the first of those? How does the exclusion of glass impact on the economics of the DRS?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

I would like to get a bit of clarity on where you see the environmental outcomes reports and the existing EIA system applying? If, for example, there were consents for onshore transmission infrastructure under sections 36 or 37 of the Electricity Act 1989, would they now go through the Westminster system of EORs, or would it be expected that EIAs will still apply?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

So, there will be two systems?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

You mentioned earlier the environmental outcomes and the increased emissions from not including glass in the system, so we do not need to dwell on that.

Wales is going ahead with including glass. I think that you said that that is primarily because Wales has a very high recycling rate and sees this as a way to drive it to the next level. How will the Welsh scheme be interoperable with the scheme that Scotland will now be part of? Are there discussions about how that interoperability will work and about the internal market act implications of the regulations in Wales? That is pertinent to the discussions that we had in Scotland a couple of years ago. Can Wales actually go ahead with this? Will it work with the scheme that you are now signed up to?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

If Wales is granted an internal market act exemption, it will be somewhat bittersweet for you and for the Scottish Government, but would it provide a route for you to come back at some point and include glass within a UK and Scottish scheme?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Mark Ruskell

Can I pick up on the council issue before you bring Haydn Thomas in? My understanding is that the inclusion of glass in the DRS would have meant that many councils could have wound down or reduced their kerbside recycling operations and saved money as a result. Are you expecting any changes due to councils having to maintain glass recycling—at a cost to them, because they do not make a profit from it—as a result of glass not being included? I am interested in where the cost will arise. Will it come to local authorities or will the extended producer responsibility kick in, with local authorities getting money for running such schemes? They will still have to collect and deal with what is a bulky, expensive and difficult-to-handle material.