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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

I do not mean to interrupt, but I am sure that a lot of that detail will be in the climate change plan. My concern is that the Government as a whole has made decisions not to accept CCC advice on a number of matters, such as livestock production. The cabinet secretary with responsibility for net zero has said that the transport sector will be picking up the slack. We understand that the megatonne of emissions for which plans are currently missing in the CCP will—ostensibly—be picked up by transport. I am trying to understand how that gap will be filled by transport plans if demand management is not rolled out quickly enough. Will we see that in the climate change plan? Will transport plans step in to address the deliberate policy decisions that the Government has made not to take action in some areas because it thinks that transport will pick up the slack?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

A lot of money was spent on a climate compatibility assessment of the full dualling of the A96. Will that be reflected in the climate change plan in some way?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

Millions of pounds were spent on a climate compatibility assessment to guide the Government towards a balanced set of options for improvements to the road. What was the conclusion of that and will it be reflected in the climate change plan?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

I will turn to the route to franchising. Obviously, SPT is now on that pathway. When the committee last looked at that, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity, Jim Fairlie, said that by the end of 2024 we would have sight of the statutory bus franchising guidance and also the memorandum of understanding on the bus franchising panel and how it would operate. We have not had that. When can we get it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

I would hope that, sitting where you are sitting now, you would feel a little bit more empowered to deliver some progress, notwithstanding the challenges that you have laid out.

There is a huge frustration about how slow the process is in Scotland. We have heard already that the UK Government has announced £15.6 billion to be put into public transport. Many of the metropolitan regions in England will be looking at franchising and municipalisation as a way to develop their bus services that are in the public interest. I do not want to get into budget decisions that are yet to come, but I presume that we would expect Barnett consequentials as a result of that announcement of £15.6 billion in England. Do you see franchising and municipalisation as important parts of the transformation in bus services that we expect to see funded in the next budget?

11:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay, but we have only a few weeks left before that date. There we go. I hope that the bus fare cap does get delivered.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

Will the “In town, slow down” message be reinforced by national communications? In Wales, there has been a 25 per cent reduction in casualties as a result of the national roll-out. That is partly because it has been very high profile and the Government there has put a lot of money into messaging and telling people why it is there, rather than people saying, “Oh, I noticed that the speed limit’s dropped,” but they are not sure why. Is there anything to reinforce that message now, as we get to the point where the whole of Scotland has the 20mph limit where it makes sense to put it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

I appreciate that the design of any schemes needs to be a very local decision, because there are local factors. However, is there an issue that that creates uncertainty? You now have a climate change plan that has a big hole in it. The cabinet secretary with responsibility for net zero said that transport will be filling that hole, so there will be an acceleration of actions on transport.

10:00  

If many of those actions are being delivered at local level, and if it is in effect up to councils to decide whether to use congestion charging or demand management, is there a danger that major projects or things that you are relying on in the climate plan will not come forward because councils are reluctant, so we might end up with a big black hole in our attempts to reduce carbon emissions? How would we fill that? We cannot completely fill it with EVs; there must be new and innovative policy. How can you ensure that action will be taken at local level, that projects will come through and that policies will be enacted, if that all depends on local councils?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

I am sure that we will see the plan at some point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Mark Ruskell

It needs to add up.