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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay—have a think about it.

I want to raise a couple of other issues that are not included in the bill. We have an on-going issue with marine enforcement. We have marine protected areas—lines on the map—but enforcement is very difficult to achieve. In a recent example, somebody who dredged for scallops in an MPA was given a fixed-penalty notice but sold the scallops for more than the fixed-penalty notice was worth. There seem to be some fundamental issues around enforcement, fines and so on. There is nothing in the bill on enforcement, but is this an opportunity to look at that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

I understand that there is a crossover between the strategy, the delivery plans and the bill, but if there is something in the law that prevents action from being taken in a delivery plan, this would be an opportunity to fix it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

Can I reflect on that? In theory, the current system looks like a good one, but clearly it has not worked at all, and that is why we are where we are, with the nature crisis and the need to tackle deer management seriously. We are talking about an improvement to an existing system. Why do you think that the section 8 powers would not be used so much in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

How will the Government maintain public confidence in venison if the venison dealer licence scheme is removed? We have heard some mixed views: there is some strong support for removing that scheme to bring more flexibility to the market and to who can sell venison. At the same time, some dealers and companies might be looking back at the 2015 E coli outbreak, with a residual fear around public confidence. I do not know how you are intending to address those matters of food safety and wider public confidence in venison as a healthy product.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

Okay. You are saying that the issue that the Government said existed in relation to offshore wind ambitions not being achievable in the current system has, by and large, been resolved by the Energy Act 2023 and the LCM for the UK bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

That is fine. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

No—that is fine. Between the two committees, I was just getting it clear in my head that that has been resolved.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

The other week, NatureScot said that it could make those changes if there was guidance from the Government. If there is a big issue with features encroaching on to existing designated sites, why does the Government not just issue guidance to NatureScot about how regulation 9D could be used?

It seems that this is the only issue that has come up in committee beyond the submission of PDF electronic documents. I am struggling to hear from any industry sector body how the current provisions of the habs regs are restricting economic growth and other benefits. I am hearing about PDFs and a technical issue about site designation; I am not hearing any other reasons. I still do not understand why this power is needed.

NatureScot says that if the Government gives it guidance, it can act on it. Why are you not giving guidance to NatureScot when DEFRA is clearly giving guidance in England?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

Does that include ecosystem health and integrity?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Mark Ruskell

Could a trigger mechanism be put into the bill on that topic in particular, so that it is not left hanging for lack of evidence and there is a clear pathway? We all know that ecosystem health and recovery is hugely important. It would be nice to put a target on it. If we do not have the data yet, when could that be?