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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

While the UK Government sinks into another culture war, cheered on by climate change deniers and naysayers, here in Scotland we are realising our ambitions on heat transition. From next April, all new buildings will need to meet our new standards for clean heating, and our package of funding support for households is the most generous in the entire UK. Does the First Minister agree that our upcoming budget must drive forward pioneering work on tackling fuel poverty and empower households and businesses to make the move to clean heating?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask you about the charter for household recycling, which has been operating on a voluntary basis. What have been the challenges around implementing it? If we are to see a shift to more of a statutory code, what does the co-development around that look like from the point of view of local authorities?

I ask Gail Macgregor to answer those questions, because she mentioned earlier that sort of co-design and co-production with the minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

Yes, I think so. It cut out a little bit at the end. I suppose the question is: based on the engagement you have had already with the development of DRS and other schemes, is that the model of engagement you would expect going forward? If there is more secondary legislation that is coming down the tracks, would you expect that early engagement and that joint work with Zero Waste Scotland and through COSLA? Despite some of the complexities around DRS and the changes, has that generally worked? Is that an appropriate way for you to be engaged within this and does that deliver enough certainty, I suppose?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

I want to ask you about your experience of the most problematic waste streams. We have heard some evidence about furniture that has POPs in it. I am sure that there are lots of other waste streams where there are particular challenges with volume or handling of materials. Could you outline what those are? How do you see the bill addressing some of those issues? I am thinking of single-use charging or even the banning of certain products. Let us start with Glasgow City Council.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

I will wrap up a couple of questions together. The last panel mentioned the recycling improvement fund. I wanted to get your perspectives on that, how you have used that, if you have, in recent years, and whether you see a continuation of that fund as being important to deliver the aspects that are covered by the bill.

I have a broader point about the bill. It is a framework bill and it has provisions to bring in secondary legislation. Can you reflect on whether you have engaged with secondary legislation in the past, such as that on the deposit return scheme and other bits of secondary legislation that are in this waste management space? What is the most effective way for you to be able to input a view ahead of decisions being made or while secondary legislation is being scrutinised in Parliament?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

It was about the recycling improvement fund, whether you have used that and how significant you see that as a way of delivering some of the provisions and investments that are needed that will come out of the bill.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

Yes. That would be very useful, I am sure.

My final question is about local recycling targets. Are they necessary, and should we be looking beyond recycling to other targets that reflect the waste hierarchy, such as reuse targets at local level? Is that something that local authorities would welcome?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

I will follow up on a couple of those points. I want to get your reflections on soft plastics. Plastic films are very difficult to recycle. I noticed that a plant had been set up in Fife to mechanically recover some of that material. If we are to significantly increase recycling, do we need to address the issue of soft plastics? Do we need to have a national facility or regional facilities?

The other issue that I want to ask about—I would like to get a Shetland perspective on this—is fishing gear. What is, in effect, ghost fishing gear has a big environmental impact. It lands on our beaches, and I am sure it lands on your beaches, too. Do you see the bill as having a role in dealing with that, or do you think that it should be part of the work of local authorities to deal with that, whether through a deposit scheme or enhanced regulation or standards in that area?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Mark Ruskell

Yes. If we could go to David McCulloch, that would be great.