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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If our other guests have similar frustrations, I would be happy to hear them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am just getting warmed up but, given that time is against us—we will have another panel following this one—and all my colleagues are keen to come in, I will leave it there.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is really what we mean by preventative spend, is it not? It is about disinvesting in one area to invest somewhere else in order to have better outcomes and to save resources further down the line.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

By when do you intend to deliver that reduction?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If people do not indicate that they want to speak, I will pick on folk.

Alison Irvine, you have not spoken yet, so I think that this is a good time to ask you a question. You said in your written submission that

“The priority for reform is therefore to build a financially sustainable and accessible transport system that the people of Scotland can rely on by improving its resilience and effectiveness.”

You went on to say that you are keen

“to develop a fiscally sustainable path which improves value for money for the tax payer.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I thank all our witnesses for their participation today and for their written contributions.

We will continue our evidence taking on the Scottish budget 2025-26 next week, when we will hear from the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body on its budget bid and from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government.

Meeting closed at 12:18.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Transport Scotland is a sponsor body and has responsibility for overseeing eight transport public bodies. Is that too many?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay, but where would that additional funding come from? That would have an additional cost. What is your estimate of how much that would be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is the issue that we face, is it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Over the past 15 years, John Mason has often raised the issue of preventative spend. We always end up in a situation in which people say that they would like additional money to go on preventative spend, but when we ask them where we should disinvest, we are met with a wall of silence.

Garry, what is your response?