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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Let us say that someone comes forward with a suggestion for a commissioner for older people, for example, which has been suggested, as I have mentioned, and they refer to the fact that we do not have a minister for older people or even a ministerial title that includes older people. In other words, they feel that older people are not getting the attention that they deserve. Does the Government look at that and say that there is an issue and a gap to be closed? What is the Government’s response to that?

I am not asking whether it will agree or disagree with a proposal for a specific commissioner. I want to know what the Government does in looking at the reasons for a commissioner being proposed in a specific area. Does it think that it needs to do something about that, because something is not transpiring in the way that it should be, which is creating enough momentum for people to drive forward with such a suggestion?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

One of the issues is that not everyone who advocates for something necessarily wants a commissioner to be established. For example, on the push for an older person’s commissioner, which we talked about earlier, we have also heard evidence that, in fact, some organisations that operate in that space feel that that money would be better spent on front-line services. Is that an assessment that the Government makes when it decides whether to take forward proposals for commissioners?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Some take that view.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Although commissioners can give evidence to committees, is the scrutiny robust enough? Could there be enhancements? If so, how could it be improved?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the 20th meeting in 2024 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee.

We have one item on our public agenda today, which is an evidence session with the Minister for Public Finance on Scotland’s commissioner landscape. The minister is joined by the Scottish Government officials Catriona Maclean, who is deputy director of the public bodies support unit, and Steven MacGregor, who is head of the Parliament and legislation unit. I welcome all of you to the meeting, and I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Would it be fair to say that that might be looked at?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. I see that David McGill is taking the fifth.

Thank you very much for your evidence today, but before we wind up, I give you an opportunity to make any final points that you feel have not been covered, or which you are desperate to convey to the committee.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much.

Today we will take evidence from the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body in our continuing inquiry into Scotland’s commissioner landscape. We are joined by Maggie Chapman MSP, SPCB lead on business support and office-holders; Jackson Carlaw MSP, SPCB lead on finance and organisational governance—I am impressed by those titles, I have to say; and David McGill, clerk and chief executive of the Scottish Parliament. I wish you all a good morning, and I welcome you to the meeting. I understand that Maggie Chapman wishes to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much. I do have lots more questions, but I will open the session out to colleagues.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 28 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I could not agree with you more. What obstacles could be put in the way of the development of myriad commissioners over the next five years or whatever?