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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
If the civil service is expected to reduce to an optimal size, should not the number of special advisers also reduce accordingly?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
What do you mean by a “safe space”? What do you mean by the word “safe” there? It is a kind of pejorative term, really. Is there somebody outside with a sharp knife, perhaps, and you put them into that space? That is probably a simplistic way of putting it, but, to me, the use of that terminology seems a bit over the top.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
It has been more efficient and more effective.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
That is exactly the point that I wanted to finish on. I have previously mentioned at committee that, when I worked in pharmaceuticals, the company had a staff suggestion scheme. They were asking, “How can you save us money?” Months later, nobody had made any suggestions. I said, “Why don’t you give people an incentive? Five per cent of whatever is saved goes to the individual who makes the suggestion that you take forward.” They said, “Aye, okay, we’ll try that. We’ll give maybe 5 per cent of whatever is saved in the first year to the person who made the suggestion.” They were absolutely inundated with suggestions, because it became a really personal thing for people.
You might think that people with a public sector ethos should be making suggestions anyway—and I am sure that they do—but I think that, if you were to incentivise people and say, “Look, you’ve been working in this department for 10 years or whatever. If you can come up with ideas that will allow us to deliver the service more efficiently and more effectively and which save us money, we will reward you with a bonus of 5 per cent of that in the first year”, there would be a lot of suggestions, a lot of good ideas and a lot of savings. Everybody—certainly the people who made the suggestions in those departments and the people who received the services—would benefit. Surely that sort of thing should be piloted, even if you did not want to roll it out completely. I would also say that, when it comes to innovation, boldness and imagination, groupthink and caution are still two big watchwords that we have to work against in the public sector in Scotland.
Do you have any final points that you wish to make, cabinet secretary, before I say how wonderful you are?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
We all appreciate that, but if you have those core level 4 figures, for example, and there is additional funding, that can be added to those figures, and people can see exactly where the Government’s priorities are.
I will move on to pension funds, because they have been talked about for years as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for housing and other areas. What practical challenges are there in accessing some of those funds? Housing has been mentioned repeatedly over the years, but that action has never quite transpired. The Deputy First Minister has been engaging with a number of people on that issue for some time, and we are still looking for some fruition from that. Where are we with that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You were candid, but I think that you felt that you could not go as far as the committee wanted.
Thank you very much for your evidence. There will be a short break before we go on to the next item on the agenda.
12:18
Meeting suspended.
12:20
On resuming—
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
The next item on our agenda is an evidence session with Ivan McKee, the Minister for Public Finance. The minister is joined by two Scottish Government officials: Jonathan Waite, aggregates tax bill team leader, and Ninian Christie, who is a lawyer. I welcome you all to the meeting and I invite the minister to make a short opening statement. Good afternoon, minister.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I have one question, and it is probably one that you would anticipate—I have certainly asked it before. When is the Scottish Government going to decouple from the United Kingdom and have either higher or lower rates, depending on what is in Scotland’s interests? It seems an almost lazy way of doing it, just to copy the UK on the basis of a myth that, if the rate is a pound higher or a pound lower, truckloads of waste will get shipped over the border. I do not think that there is any evidence for that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I am not convinced that that would be particularly difficult. There have been years in which to get this right, if we are honest. I would have thought that the rate would be set at the optimum level for Scotland, rather than just saying, “We’ve only had a few weeks to think about it.” Surely you have had the whole of last year to think about it. Whether the UK puts the rate up by X or Z, we should be setting the rate at Y, if that is in Scotland’s interests.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
Have you spoken to the UK Government about getting earlier sight of such changes in the future?