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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

One of the things that John Mason pointed out when we had a similar discussion a couple of years ago was that, at that time, the University of Glasgow had reserves of £770 million. Facts such as that make things difficult from our perspective. I can understand exactly what you are saying but, when some universities have that level of cash assets, it is difficult for us to say that we should take money out of other areas of priority expenditure, which we would have to do, given that the Scottish Government has a more or less fixed budget from which to provide funding. How would you respond to that? I know that not all universities are as prosperous as that, and perhaps Glasgow does not have quite as much money stashed away now as it did a couple of years ago, but how would Universities Scotland address that issue?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

There are quite a lot of figures here. For example, according to your submission, London Economics estimates that there is a

“12.7:1 economic multiplier on resources won from UKRI”.

The figures that you have given us all seem to be very positive in that direction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Of course.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Ms Manson, what kind of relationship does the Federation of Small Businesses have with Universities Scotland? What can it do to help you, or vice versa?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I am tempted to ask about non-domestic rates, but I am sure that colleagues will be keen to come in on that, so I shall allow them to do so.

I will open out the session to colleagues, with Ross Greer to ask the first questions, to be followed by Liz Smith.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I am tempted to say something, but I am not going to.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I completely agree with that, and it is a really important point. Given that scale, surely £10 million would have only an infinitesimal impact in that sector, whereas £10 million or £15 million could have a significant impact on Scotland’s R and D footprint and its global competitiveness at university level.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Indeed.

Vikki, the last word is with you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

The issue that you have touched on is politics. The Scottish Government is in a minority situation and we are 18 months before an election, so one would think that the Opposition parties are very unlikely to get on board with whatever the Scottish Government says. Given its huge majority, could the UK Government perhaps not take the lead on an issue such as council tax reform?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Kenneth Gibson

We are going to see a lot more fiscal drag.