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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If you do not get that information, you cannot really be held to account.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

When it comes to independent financial institutions, the Scottish Fiscal Commission is considered to be one of the most independent not just in Europe but globally. The OECD said that there is a perception that there could be a potential threat to the SFC’s independence: with

“the possibility of a changed political landscape ... tensions could emerge.”

In evidence, the OECD explained that, potentially,

“a separate budget line in the budget for those institutions would mean that it would become increasingly transparent when changes were made.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 18 March 2025; c 55.]

It also talked about multiyear funding, which you are keen on. Will you talk about those issues?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Does zero-based budgeting have a role to play in the comprehensive spending review?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The OECD report said that the SFC is as independent as the OBR, if not more so. If the Scottish Government tried to cut your funding, I think that you would find that the coverage that you got in the Scottish media would be a lot higher than it probably is at present, so I do not think that there is any likelihood of that happening.

That concludes our questions. Are there any final points that you want to raise on any issues that you feel that we should have touched on but have not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The OECD’s 2025 report on the Scottish Fiscal Commission was very positive, as you know from when we discussed it. You will have seen the Official Report of the committee’s deliberations from two weeks ago.

The OECD said:

“the SFC will need to broaden and deepen its spending analysis beyond social security. This will enable the SFC to undertake robust independent analysis of spending pressures across the budget and highlight in politically neutral terms some of the different ways in which they might be alleviated.”

I know that you welcome that. What would be the resource implications of it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I noticed that 80 to 81 per cent of your budget goes on staff and that you have underspent that by about 5 per cent in the past couple of years. If you were to do this additional work, would there need to be a significant expansion in the SFC’s budget, or are you reasonably confident that it can be delivered with the budget as it is?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am worried that the recruitment of Ross Burnside, with his outrageous financial demands, might tip you into deficit, so I hope that you will be reining him in early doors on that.

One document that you published was your corporate plan for 2022 to 2025. In that plan, there are four strategic objectives—I have them written here in front of me. Could you talk about them for a minute or two?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You touched briefly on risks. You have identified five potential areas of risk. When it comes to corporate systems, the annual report explains:

“This risk rose to and remained high amber for the second half of the year”.

What is happening?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You are held to account on your forecast.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If it takes a few years, do you not push for it not to take a few years? Have you requested that the Government achieve the recommendations by any specific deadlines?

The Government often takes a mañana approach to documents. If something does not have to be done this week, it will be done next week or, more likely, the week after.