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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 March 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Indeed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Me too.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Toes have been dipped in the water, but the scale needs to be increased significantly, if that is possible.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

You also talked about the mutual investment model, without naming it specifically. That was rejected for the A9. The costs involved in that are very significant in terms of resource and, with up to 3.6 times the cost having to be paid back, it is near private finance initiative levels. In what circumstances would that investment model be entered into? It looks like a very expensive way of delivering projects. If history has taught us anything, it is that we do not necessarily want to be in a position whereby, 20 years from now, people are still paying through the nose for projects that were delivered long ago.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

As happened with the A9.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you.

I have to return to the issue of staff coming in to the office for 40 per cent of their working week. Frankly, I think that many people watching this would be bewildered that no monitoring takes place and that there seem to be no repercussions for people if they just ignore the policy of having to come in two days a week. I find that quite astonishing. When I think about my years in the private sector, I can just imagine what would have happened if I had told my boss that I was not going to be coming in. It just seems really bizarre to me.

What is the situation with the civil service in other parts of the UK? Does it follow similar policies, or is it completely different? Do those civil servants come in 20, 40 or 60 per cent of the time? Is there any monitoring or whatever? Where are we relative to other jurisdictions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. Before we wind up, do you have any final points that you want to make to the committee? Are there any areas that we have not touched on but which you would like us to have touched on, or is there anything else that you want to emphasise about the work of you and your team?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. I think that many of your responses today have been very helpful to the committee in clarifying a number of areas, but I have to say that I—and, I am sure, colleagues—have felt an element of disappointment that there has been a wee bit of a-ducking and a-diving and a-bobbing and a-weaving with regard to some of the numeric issues that we have asked about. I realise that you might feel that you are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the issue that I just raised of people coming back to work, but these are issues that the public and others are generally concerned about. I would hope that you realise that, when we ask questions specifically about numbers, it is quite frustrating not to be given a specific number or even parameters. That has come up a number of times today. I hope that, in future and in some of the follow-ups that we will get to what has been discussed today, we will get a wee bit more clarity on those things. It helps everyone if we can get direct answers to direct questions, wherever possible—and if it is not possible at the time, I hope that there can be some follow-up.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

We will publish a short report to the Parliament, setting out our decision. That concludes our deliberations on the instrument. Thank you very much, minister.

12:27

Meeting continued in private until 12:30.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Luck favours the brave.