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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The fewer, more integrated documents there are, the better, I would have thought.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The Fraser of Allander Institute and other organisations have raised concerns about the fiscal sustainability delivery plan not being incorporated directly into the medium-term financial strategy. What is your view on that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I do not doubt that the committee has a lot of sympathy for that. We pressed for the MTFS and we were disappointed that there was not one last year.

To reflect the point that David Phillips was trying to make, we have waited this long and, if we wait another few weeks, we might be able to get a more robust, more impactful MTFS. That is the position that I think he is taking. He is talking about what happens after the summer but, to me, that seems like a long time. The difficulty is that, if the strategy were to come out after 11 June, there would be difficulties with finding the time to scrutinise it before the autumn.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

As members have no further questions, we turn to agenda item 4, which is formal consideration of the motion on the instrument.

Motion moved,

That the Finance and Public Administration Committee recommends that the Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Group Relief and Sub-sale Development Relief Modifications) (Scotland) Order 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Ivan McKee]

Motion agreed to.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I thank the minister and Ms Parker for attending to give evidence. We will publish a short report to the Parliament setting out our decision on the instrument.

As that was the last item on the public agenda, I now close this meeting.

Meeting closed at 12:27.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is what is happening now. We are spending more on the NHS, but there are fewer operations than there were before the pandemic.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is interesting that, in paragraph 29, you say that

“Under a scenario of worse population health, we project the annual budget gap to reach minus 4.0 per cent by the end of the projection”,

but if the gap

“is improved by better population health,”

it could be a “positive 6.2 per cent.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The issue is not only how long we live, but how long we live in good health. That is a major issue, certainly in the area that I represent, where the average age at which people go out of good health is as low as 56—in other words, people can live in ill health for 15 to 20 years. That is a major issue for the individuals concerned, never mind for budgetary considerations.

I am keen to look at what you say about the annual budget gaps. You say:

“We also assume the UK Government does not take action to address its own fiscal sustainability challenges.”

Why would it not do that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. I open up the session to colleagues around the table.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

As an example, the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s stuff is written in straightforward, plain English, with lots of explanations at the end of all the acronyms. How would you improve on that, if you feel that it is something that should be improved?