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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
That is a really fair response, because things are changing all the time. No one expects you to give a figure of 7,922 or whatever it happens to be. However, I am looking for parameters.
If we cannot have an optimal figure, as there may be changes as things progress and other things happen—“Events, dear boy, events”—what is the minimum number that the civil service needs in order to function? Is that another way of looking at it, assuming that where we are is broadly where we stay in terms of the delivery of policy and priorities?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
It used to be called wastage—attrition is not really much better, is it? There is a 6 per cent attrition rate, and the Scottish Government is looking for a cost reduction of around 4 per cent a year. Where are we on that? On 7 November, the cabinet secretary confirmed that annualised Scottish Government costs will reduce by approximately £1 billion, which is 20 per cent of costs. As I said, that is about 4 per cent a year. Where are we on that? Are we on track?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
“Largely” could be 51 per cent or 95 per cent.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I could say more about that, but I appreciate what you have said.
This is my final point. When the committee went to Lithuania, we were impressed by the Lithuania 2050 approach, which is a national vision for the future, with a parliamentary committee of all parties monitoring progress towards achieving that vision of where they want that country to be in 2050. It has all-party buy-in. We understand that Scottish Government officials have since met officials from the Lithuanian Government, and the Scottish Government has committed to giving
“full consideration to any applicable lessons from the Lithuania 2050 approach and other international good practice.”
Given the fact that the SFC continues to talk about the impact of sustainability, and that you, Joe, as the permanent secretary, have talked about the fiscal gap in capital and resource in the next few years, is there a need for a similar committee in Scotland, or for one of the Parliament’s committees to have a remit that includes a focus on long-term fiscal sustainability so that we can, as has been said, look at international good practice and deliver long-term sustainability of not only our finances but the delivery of the services that depend on those finances?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
So many countries are facing the same issues that we are, such as the demographic challenge, in a rapidly changing world.
Colleagues are keen to come in. The first will be Michelle Thomson, followed by Craig Hoy.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
It seems to me, as a simple soul, that the Scottish Government was quick to take on board the Supreme Court’s view on the legality of an independence referendum, but this seems to be dragging out for what has been, I think, 11 months already.
Lesley, can I ask you, what is a listening circle? It is not something that I have come across in all my many years.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
The Funding Council said that it had
“a very welcome budget uplift for 2026-27, which will support stabilisation.”
The Convention of Scottish Local Authorities said:
“We need to have a radical review of what we are all delivering and what Scotland wants us to deliver.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 24 February 2026; c 13, 38.]
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
You talked about the budget being passed and additional funding of some £900 million over three years from the UK Government, although my understanding is that £540 million of that is in the first year but only £13 million in the second year, so it is a bit of a rollercoaster. Witnesses have suggested that it would be helpful for the Government to say how it will prioritise additional spending. We have the Scottish budget, but if additional funding becomes available, no obvious information seems to have been provided; for example, the Government could say: “Health and social care needs a boost, so that would be our number 1 priority.” Will the Scottish Government do that as part of the programme? Will it say, “This is our core budget for this financial year, and this is where the SSR is going, but if additional money becomes available, we would like to do this and we would like to do that”? If, for whatever reason, there was less money, and there was a shock to the system, it would also be helpful to know what would be deprioritised, but, more importantly, where additional funding will be invested.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I know. This has always been a real issue with disinvestment. Everyone wants more to be spent on prevention, but no one wants to disinvest in things that do not work as well.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Kenneth Gibson
I appreciate that. There is a £540 million drop, effectively.