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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for that. I will now open up the session.

10:30  

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you to colleagues around the table for their questions and thank you for your evidence, Dr Pathirana. Do you want to make any further points before we wind up the session?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that opening statement. Although it was helpful, it has generated a number of questions. For example, we wrote to you earlier this year, and the response that was sent on 2 April 2025 says:

“we aim to have all work completed for all schemes by 31 October 2025”.

That seems to have been incredibly optimistic, given the information that you have given us today. For example, 105,000 of the 215,000 cases still seem to be outstanding. I do not want to ask you multiple questions straight away, but I wonder why 85 per cent of all police cases will be dealt with by 31 March, but, by the end of this year, only 40 per cent of NHS cases and 25 per cent of teacher cases will have been dealt with. Can you tell us why, in the spring, you thought that it would be completed by 31 October and it is clear that they will not all be completed even by next year, and also why different groups have different timescales for delivery?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, in a week.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I know that, but you must be able to assess individually what has happened this week, this month or whatever.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Apologies—I am trying to get my head around all the different percentages. I thought that you said that you will have processed 85 per cent of police cases by 31 March next year, 40 per cent of NHS by March and 25 per cent of teachers by the end of 2025. Am I wrong in those figures?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

No—it is me scribbling all these things down, I suppose.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

So the £1.7 billion is just the Scottish figure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That tells me that it will still take at least until 2027 to get through that cohort. How many staff do you have working on this? You originally said that you are now dealing with a huge workload of 215,000 cases on top of your normal workload of about 12,000 a year. How many staff did you have initially and how many do you have now to help you get through this? One would have thought you would have had to ratchet up the number of staff that you have on board to address the situation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. I find it remarkable that no one seemed to realise how complex it was going to be until May of this year. If processing takes five minutes for some and eight hours for others, that means that some cases take 96 times longer than others. Have all those that take five minutes been done?