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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I would be delighted if you did. You have mentioned the no wrong door initiative a couple of times. I am quite intrigued by that. Resources are tight and are likely to be tight for the foreseeable future, and I hope that, if best practice can be shared, resources will be spent at a more optimum level than perhaps happens at the moment across Scotland.
I will finish where I started, with a point for Mirren Kelly, which is also on the question about sharing examples of good practice. Again, I was somewhat disappointed in COSLA’s response to that question. Your response said:
“This has involved working collaboratively with a range of organisations, where workstreams with a range of stakeholders have been set up to progress each of the agreed outcomes.”
There was a sentence before that, and a long sentence after it, but not really any specific examples of best practice, as I would consider it, where improvements have been made. If we are going to deliver on the outcomes, it is important, as I have already pointed out, that we share that information. Do you have any specific direct examples that you can share?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Yes—or services delivered by the NHS, for example; I would imagine that there would be issues there.
Are there any further points that our witnesses want to make before we end the session?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Well, we are pursuing this inquiry to ensure that it does not wither on the vine, and there will be the statutory review next year.
I think the point that Jamie Livingstone made about the round-table session is extremely significant. In fact, that was the bit that I highlighted to ask you about when we came to that subject. I was pleased that you brought that into the discussion—it is certainly something that we will put to Scottish ministers.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I was actually going to bring you in on that subject. I am going to let John Mason in, and then we will come back to you to talk about finance. It is a thread that runs right through the submissions, and you have made several specific comments relating to it, so we will come back to you after a question from John Mason.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I do not necessarily disagree with what you have said, because local authorities are encouraged to do short-term, medium-term and long-term planning. However, the Government is not going to make an overall commitment in terms of that. Organisations must plan for those different scenarios and we, as a committee, want to ensure that there is as much funding that they can rely on—as much sustainable funding—as possible. We will certainly be pressing the Government on that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Vicki Bibby has been very patient.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Yes. The phrase “our people” does not need to be there; it should just be “people” or “everyone”.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
We have about 16 or 17 minutes left, and the last topic that I want to touch on is collaborative working. After that wee topic, I want to give all our guests an opportunity to make one last comment on any aspect that we may or may not have touched on that they feel is critically important for the committee to pick up on.
Neil, how does the NPF underpin collaborative working?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Come at it from a different angle if you wish.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 May 2022
Kenneth Gibson
You make a fundamental point. If Public Health Scotland can save money through an initiative for another area of the Scottish Government’s work, should some of that resource go back to Public Health Scotland, for example?
When I used to work in pharma, we had a staff suggestion scheme on how to improve the company, its business, its profitability and so on. Nobody put in any suggestions, but the suggestion was then made—by yours truly, I have to say—that if the company gave a little reward to people who made a suggestion—of, for example, 10 per cent of the money that was saved by the company as a result—it might get more suggestions. The company was inundated with suggestions. A lot of people in the company felt, “It’s making multimillion-pound profits and I’m not getting anything out of it.” As soon as there was an opportunity for people to get a reward, they put in suggestions. Some of those suggestions saved the company huge amounts of money, and the staff benefited accordingly.
Even in the public sector, that can work. The public service ethos is that if you deliver something, you should want to do it for the sake of doing it, apart from anything else, but, at the same time, if, for example, Public Health Scotland was able to save £1 million in another department, why should half of that money not return to Public Health Scotland to contribute towards other initiatives?