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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There will always be an impact on services, given the time involved and so on. Is there an argument for having a separate fund for public inquiries so that, when the Government announces a public inquiry, organisations can dip into a specific fund to try to mitigate some of the impacts on the NHS, justice services or whatever?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mary, do you have any examples of anything like that? Do you feel that inquiries should stick to the terms of reference that have been set? I understand that, on occasion, the terms of reference can change during an inquiry and can be widened or deepened.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There have certainly been calls for that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Rebecca McKee, the number of inquiry recommendations has ranged from one to up to 290. Between 1990 and 2024, 54 inquiries made 3,175 recommendations. Mary Morgan made an interesting point about interim recommendations. What are your thoughts on that?

The Thirlwall inquiry, which is investigating the circumstances surrounding the actions of former nurse Lucy Letby, conducted a review of past inquiry recommendations on healthcare issues and found that many had not been acted on. Recommendations are made, the Government accepts them and then nothing seems to happen.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Mary Morgan, you have said that increased consistency in how inquiries are conducted would likely lead to better cost-effectiveness. If inquiries are judge led, they might be consistent but there will not be a positive impact on costs, because one of the concerns with judge-led inquiries is that they seem to take much longer in undertaking the evidential aspect of the inquiry and publishing their report. Do you share that concern, given the implications for the health service?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

When we put that question to the Faculty of Advocates, it said that, even though the same documents feature many times, some folk have annotated them, so people still have to look at them.

I thank both witnesses for their evidence, which is really appreciated. If there is anything that we have omitted or not touched on or something that you are desperate to say, now is your opportunity to put it on the record.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You touched on whether an inquiry is statutory or non-statutory and whether it is judge led. UK-wide figures over the past 30 years show that, in the past decade, 23 out of 24 public inquiries have been judge led, with the figure being 18 out of 23 in the previous decade and 20 out of 33 in the decade before that. Do you think that, unless a public inquiry is now judge led, it is not considered to be the gold standard that those who clamour for such inquiries demand?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is helpful. I am just exploring different ways of carrying out inquiries timeously and, frankly, less expensively.

Your written submission states:

“NSS suggests that current processes for monitoring public inquiry costs are inadequate ... Costs are not reimbursed or reported consistently. There is no oversight of costs incurred.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Amen.