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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Everyone agrees that organisations should have longer-term funding across the board. I was asking whether there is anything that you think that you should receive additional funding for now and where that should come from, or whether you support reduced taxation and reduced funding.

I am not asking you specifically; I am asking a general question.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I call Liz Smith to be followed by John Mason.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In your submission, you talk a lot about digitisation of data and so on, so I was going to ask you a specific question about that, anyway. What is ROS doing to ensure that the data system, and all your tech systems, are compatible with those in other areas of the public sector? What discussions are you having across public bodies and the public sector on adopting tech that appears, from your submission, to be very innovative?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

It is quite astonishing that we are where we are. In contrast, we might look at the Estonian X-Road system, which is very advanced. It has everyone’s medical records on it, and the police can go into it and liaise with Interpol and various other international police services. Estonia’s system has myriad data, yet in Scotland we are still talking about producing systems that might or might not be compatible with one another. When you think about it, that is astonishing.

Is there any central leadership on that in the Scottish Government? Is there someone who speaks to each of you and says, “This is the system you should adopt and this is the way you should go forward”, or are you more or less left to do it autonomously, through discussions with one another?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you, and I should also mention that I, too, have a property that I let.

Thank you very much for that opening statement, minister. With regard to the objective here—which, frankly, is to raise money as well as having an impact on first-time buyers—what do you believe the elasticity of demand is? Will the impact on the buy-to-let sector and on second homes be mirrored by the number of people who will buy their first property? I am just creating this example out of thin air, but if there are 100 fewer buy-to-let properties, does that mean, according to the Government’s estimates, that 50 more people will be buying their houses, or will it be 150 or whatever? What is the Government’s thinking on that? How does it look at the impact of this on the sector that it is hoping to boost? What evidence is there that, when the additional dwelling supplement went to 6 per cent, there was a boost to first-time buying?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Good. That is progress, because that was not the case a year ago. I will let Michael Marra come in, and then a couple of others who are keen to come in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

So, would you suggest that there is no direct Scottish Government leadership on that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Michael Marra wants to come in on that, before I bring in Mary Morgan.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. That is something.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Kenneth Gibson

As no one else has suggested that they want to contribute, I will wind up the meeting by asking you all to make one further point that you feel we have not covered in our deliberations. It can be on any aspect of the budget. No one will be excluded, so you will all be expected to say something, but it can be any point that you think of. It will be rhetorical—we are not going to debate it—so it is just any point that you want to make.

Jane Morrison-Ross, because you opened the evidence session, you will be the last person to contribute. We need a volunteer to begin making any further points that people want to emphasise.

Garry McEwan will kick us off.