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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 5 September 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Well, not from existing jobs. You have talked about displacement. If people are going to be displaced, they will not be displaced on the basis of lower wages and poorer working conditions, will they?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Okay. Thank you very much for your evidence this morning. It was very helpful to the committee. We will continue taking evidence on this subject after the summer recess.
That concludes our public evidence taking. As the next item on our agenda will be taken in private, I will call a five-minute recess to allow our witnesses to leave.
11:01 Meeting continued in private until 11:24.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Mr Emmott, all the evidence suggests that, even when you know that funding is only for one year, medium to long-term planning is extremely important. Do you not agree?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Staff will always be a major component, if not the major component, in all local authorities, no matter how digitalised they become.
Do you see digitalisation as an on-going thing or as a goal where you feel that you will be able to reach optimum service delivery?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
I have talked about shared best practice among local authorities for many years. Should other local authorities look at how East Ayrshire does asset transfers? What could you learn from how other local authorities deliver services?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Good morning, and welcome to the 20th meeting in 2023 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. We continue to take evidence on the Scottish Government’s public service reform programme. With names hopefully pronounced correctly—we had some debate at this end of the table—we will hear from Malcolm Burr, chief executive of Comhairle nan Eilean Siar; Robert Emmott, executive director of corporate services at Dundee City Council; and Iain Tough, head of corporate support at East Ayrshire Council. I welcome you all to the meeting. I will allow up to 75 minutes for the session. If witnesses wish to be brought into the discussion at any point, please indicate to the clerks, and I can then call you. We have your written submissions, so we will move straight to questions.
My first question is to Mr Burr. Let us start at the beginning. One of the things that we have been asking about is sustainable services. The submission from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities used the phrase “fair and sustainable funding”. What does that mean to you, bearing in mind the comment in your written submission that your local authority has had consistently the biggest reduction in revenue funding over the past few years? Will you talk us through that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
No—it was a comprehensive answer. You touched on a couple of things that are mentioned in your written submission. For example, you talked about the need to have a single authority, which is a significant point. You also talked about the difference between the ability of your council and that of others to outsource, which is also significant. I imagine that depopulation has played a part in the reduction in funding. No one ever seems to want to say how much “fair and sustainable funding” is in pounds, shillings and pence.
Do you accept that, as Ross Greer said last week, the Scottish Government does not have multiyear funding, so it is kind of difficult for it to provide multiyear funding for those who depend on it? Is that not a fair comment?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
One thing that you are implementing, as everyone is to a degree, is digitalisation. Over what time do you hope to deliver digitalisation, and are you working with other local authorities on that? When I read the reports about local authorities and their work on digitalisation, it seems that everyone is beavering away. I am not sure what level of cross-local authority working there is. For example, we could have similar systems being implemented and possible economies of scale. Where are you on that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
You state in your written submission:
“Monthly online transactions have increased from 1,500 pre-pandemic to over 25,000 monthly, reducing paper handling, improving processing times and transforming service delivery.”
How does that work for people who are not digitally included?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you.
Mr Emmott, I am looking at Dundee City Council’s submission to the committee. One of the questions that we asked was about how the organisation’s plans seek to deliver on the Scottish Government’s three strategic priorities, which were set out. I notice that, in Dundee City Council’s response, you say that you are
“reducing child poverty and inequalities in incomes, education”.
However, you have not expanded on that to say how you will deliver that; it is just a line. Will you expand on that a wee bit, please?