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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 March 2023

Kenneth Gibson

You say that it is a technical thing, but that does not explain what it means in the real world.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 March 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Any information that can be provided to the committee will be helpful. We will be going through this process twice a year, so the more au fait we become with it, the better that will be for the committee and our relationship with the Scottish Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 March 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2023 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. The first item on our agenda is an evidence session with the Minister for Public Finance, Planning and Community Wealth on the draft Budget (Scotland) Act 2022 Amendment (No 2) Regulations 2023. Tom Arthur is joined by Scottish Government officials Craig Maidment and Niall Caldwell. I welcome our witnesses and I invite Mr Arthur to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 March 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you very much for that, minister, and I thank you for the supporting documents that have been provided, which are very helpful to the committee.

The money that we are talking about is, in total, £713.4 million, which is not an insignificant amount. As you said, £502.3 million is changes to reflect the deployment of available resources to portfolios. Can you talk us through one or two of those? There have been quite significant and substantial changes for the portfolios. In effect, some of those may just be rebranding, I would think—from one portfolio to another—but others might have more significant impacts. I want to talk through that, where possible.

First, for example, in health and social care, we have £422 million of positive funding changes, technical changes of £263.3 million, and net transfers within the Scottish bloc of £898.7 million. The final sum is around £80 million less than at the beginning of the financial year. I know that some of that has gone to local government. Will you explain the thinking behind why those changes have taken place during the year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 March 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Where did the £502.3 million of additional funding come from to enable you to put that additional funding into the overall portfolio spread?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Kenneth Gibson

I am sure that other colleagues will ask about the fiscal framework, which is why I have not done so. However, the issue is one that the committee is becoming increasingly concerned about, because we do not seem to have moved forward on it in the past year. I know that there has been a lot of chaos, given that we have had four Chancellors of the Exchequer and three Prime Ministers.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Good morning and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2023 of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. Today, we will consider the budget bill at stage 2, but before we turn to formal stage 2 proceedings, we will take evidence on the Scottish Government’s response to our “Budget Scrutiny 2023-24” report.

We are joined today by John Swinney, who is the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery. He is accompanied by Scottish Government officials Alison Cumming, who is the director of budget and public spending, and Lorraine King, who is the deputy director of the tax and revenues directorate. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting.

Members received copies of the Scottish Government response on Friday. Before we move to questions from the committee, I invite Mr Swinney to make a short opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Kenneth Gibson

However, the problem is that, even if inflation declines dramatically in the way that everyone anticipates it will this year, the prices are still fixed at a higher level and, because the capital allocation has shrunk, you will still have to try to squeeze a quart into a pint pot.

I was intrigued to find out that the green investment portfolio has already attracted £300 million in private investment, with

“£875 million currently under offer or in active discussions.”

There is significant private resource available to come in to help to boost and deliver the projects, is there not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Kenneth Gibson

With that, as there are no other questions, I bring the evidence session to a close. We will have a five-minute comfort break.

11:04 Meeting suspended.  

11:08 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Kenneth Gibson

Our next item is consideration of the Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill at stage 2. We have no amendments, but the standing orders oblige us to consider and agree formally to each of the bill’s sections and schedules, and its long title. We will take the sections in order, with schedules being taken immediately after the section that introduces them, and will take the long title last. Fortunately, the standing orders allow us to put a single question on groups of sections and schedules that are to be considered consecutively. Unless members disagree, that is what I propose to do.

The question is, that section 1, schedule 1, section 2, schedule 2, section 3, schedule 3, and sections 4 to 11 be agreed to. Are we agreed?