The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Basically, you are saying that, ultimately, local authorities might have to find money from somewhere else.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
On pensions, there is a real concern about viability, given that it is not known whether the national care service would be admitted as a member of the local government pension scheme, which is fully funded. Can you advise us of anything in that regard?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I have one final question. One positive aspect of the bill is the right to breaks from caring, but that has cost and staffing implications. CIPFA has said that
“There should ... be a role for professional assessment of need, as we see currently in social care and in the NHS”,
and that
“this will require financial investment in the professional workforce but is dependent on the workforce being available.”
To me, that seems more of an issue. We know that there is a chronic shortage of people working in care settings, with a figure of 300,000 across the United Kingdom. How deliverable will the measure be, given the staff issues? Will we be able to do it, given the workforce challenges?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
So there might or might not be a withdrawal of 75,000 staff from local authorities. Is that what you are saying?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I am a big fan of single public authorities. We will now expand the discussion around the table to include Douglas Lumsden, to be followed by Michelle Thomson.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
The reason I asked is that we have not had any previous discussion on that, so I wanted to touch on it.
Sharon, my question for you is about an issue that you raise in your written submission. You say that there is
“Concern that the recommendation to increase Free Personal and Nursing Care for self-funders will not necessarily deliver a reduction to the amount paid by self-funders.”
Can you expand a wee bit on what your concerns are?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
I thank our witnesses for their contributions. We now move into private session.
12:10 Meeting continued in private until 12:14.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
We will no doubt question the next panel about that when they appear before us in a few minutes’ time.
The financial memorandum anticipates savings or efficiencies through shared services across the national care service, but it does not acknowledge the corresponding loss of economies of scale for local government. It has been pointed out to the committee—I have heard this directly from local authorities as well as read it in the submissions—that there will be an impact on the viability of some of our smaller local authorities. What do you think will be the unintended consequences with regard to the finances involved?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2022
Kenneth Gibson
To be honest, though, it looks to me—and, I think, to many others—like we could be building a house on sand here. You have to get the primary legislation right first before you can think over the secondary legislation.
I am struggling to remember a time when I have previously received submissions that have been quite so excoriating with regard to the financial aspects of a bill. COSLA also made the point that no business case was produced before the publication of the draft bill,
“setting out the rationale, costs, benefits and risks of the National Care Service to facilitate meaningful scrutiny by Parliament”.
Why was that not done in the financial memorandum?
I know how bills have been produced in the past. Over the years, I have seen financial memoranda that have necessitated only one or two pages, and there has not been a lot of meat in them. However, this bill involves a monumental change over a number of years that will affect an extremely vulnerable section of all our communities. Surely much more in-depth thought should have been put into the financial aspects of the bill and its deliverability in financial terms.